God uses gentle questioning and hospitality to eventually convert someone

How God used gentle questioning and hospitality to get her attention, which eventually lead to the conversion of a radical lesbian University professor:

http://www.desiringgod.org/blog/posts/from-radical-lesbian-to-redeemed-christian

The Secret Thoughts of an Unlikely Convert – by Rosaria Butterfield

Here is an interview that Rosaria Butterfield did with Marvin Olasky of World Magazine:

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About Ken Temple

I am a follower of Jesus Christ. I am a sinner who has been saved by the grace of God alone (Ephesians 2:8-9), through faith alone (Galatians 2:16; Romans 3:28; 4:1-16), in Christ alone (John 14:6). But a true faith does not stay alone, it should result in change, fruit, good works, and deeper levels of repentance and hatred of my own sins of selfishness and pride. I am not better than you! I still make mistakes and sin, but the Lord is working on me, conforming me to His character. (Romans 8:28-29; 2 Corinthians 3:16-18) When I do sin, I hate the sin as it is an affront to God, and seek His forgiveness in repentance. (Mark 1:15; 2 Corinthians 7:7-10; Colossians 3:5-16 ) Praise God for His love for sinners (Romans 5:8), shown by the voluntary coming of Christ and His freely laying down His life for us (John 10:18), becoming flesh/human (John 1:1-5; 1:14; Philippians 2:5-8), dying for sins of people from all nations, tribes, and cultures (Revelation 5:9), on the cross, in history, rising from the dead (Romans 10:9-10; Matthew 28, Mark 16:1-8; Luke 24; John 20-21; 1 Corinthians chapter 15). His resurrection from the dead proved that Jesus is the Messiah, the eternal Son of God, the word of God from eternity past; and that He was all the gospels say He was and that He is truth and the life and the way to salvation. (John 14:6)
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22 Responses to God uses gentle questioning and hospitality to eventually convert someone

  1. θ says:

    Islam being the religion of Peace for the radical is as ridiculous as Christianity being a religion of Love for the Islamophobes and the regular online haters of Allah, Qur’an and Prophet Muhammad.

    Just as the weapons, Islam itself never kills. Only a man behind the gun kills.
    Islam is the religion of peace, just as the gun can be a token of freedom.
    Islam doesn’t have Jihad nor Caliphate as a pillar of Faith, but having the guns is the 2nd Amendment in the US.
    Mostly only fire can stop fire. Only guns can stop the shooters.

    Love does not kill either, but often the lovers do. Even Christians believe Jesus was killed for being a lover.

  2. θ says:

    “Ken Temple says: What does that have to do with the topic of this blog article?”

    Just like slavery, the end of legitimate and legal punishment of Homosexuals is a recent backward evolution in the West Christendom.
    Someday, every sin would be permissible for them, even perhaps terrorism. Maybe it’s just a matter of time?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_against_LGBT_people
    When the Roman Empire came under Christian rule, all male homosexual activity was increasingly repressed, often on pain of death.[8] In 342 CE, the Christian emperors Constantius and Constans declared same-sex marriage to be illegal.[9] Shortly after, in the year 390 CE, emperors Valentinian II, Theodosius I and Arcadius declared homosexual sex to be illegal and those who were guilty of it were condemned to be publicly burned alive.[8] Emperor Justinian I (527–565 CE) made homosexuals a scapegoat for problems such as “famines, earthquakes, and pestilences.”[10]

    Laws and codes prohibiting homosexual practice were in force in Europe from the fourth[8] to the twentieth centuries, and Muslim countries have had similar laws from the beginnings of Islam in the seventh century up to and including the present day. Abbasid Baghdad, under the Caliph Al-Hadi (785–786 CE), punished homosexuality with death.

    During the Middle Ages, the Kingdom of France and the City of Florence also instated the death penalty. In Florence, a young boy named Giovanni di Giovanni (1350–1365?) was castrated and burned between the thighs with a red-hot iron by court order under this law.[11][12] These punishments continued into the Renaissance, and spread to the Swiss canton of Zürich. Knight Richard von Hohenberg (died 1482) was burned at the stake together with his lover, his young squire, during this time. In France, French writer Jacques Chausson (1618–1661) was also burned alive for attempting to seduce the son of a nobleman.

    In England, the Buggery Act of 1534 made sodomy and bestiality punishable by death. This act was replaced in 1828, but sodomy remained punishable by death under the new act until 1861. The last executions were in 1835.

  3. Ken Temple says:

    It is still not exactly related to the article; but now you connected it; ok.

    Most of that is true, as far as history goes, (although I don’t think they called it “marriage” back then – as there is no such thing as homosexual marriage. Marriage by definition is a creation ordinance of one man and one woman – Genesis chapters 1-2 and Matthew 19:4-6);

    but Boswell is not a reliable source (in my opinion), since he himself was a homosexual and died of AIDS, and has been known to do revisionist history in efforts to make homosexuality more acceptable. He was probably the main modern writer in the west to start the whole appearance of scholarly writing to seek to re-interpret the Bible.

    But, Islam is not a religion of Peace. The aggressive wars against Byzantine and Persia and all after that were wrong and unjust. Surah 9:5; 9:29; 8:39 and so many Hadith narrations confirm this.

  4. θ says:

    In Medieval Ages, even the Reformed would shout so proudly “Je suis Islamiste”
    More and more evidences of History showed how that Islam and the Medieval West (both Catholicism and Reformation) were once very common.

    Islam is a religion of Peace. History is on our Moslem side:
    (i) Absence of Arab’s invasion of the neighboring Eastern Africa.
    (ii) Conversion of the South Eastern Asians.
    (iii) Conversion of Mongols by Sufism.

    • Ken Temple says:

      Attack of Byzantine and Persia was wrong and unjust and Surah 9:29; 9:5; 8:39 and many Hadith prove Islam is not a religion of peace, but a religion of aggressive war.

      • θ says:

        Who attacks who? It is Byzantines who initially attacked and tried to invade Medinah city during the Mu’tah war. Medieval Arabs were liberators for the Christian Monophysites, Jews and Lakhmids.

  5. θ says:

    Who says the Old Testament is temporal for specific time and people during the so-called Theocratic Israel? Who says Jesus is love? Love hurts eh?

    In Florence, a young boy named Giovanni di Giovanni (1350–1365?) was castrated and burned between the thighs with a red-hot iron by court order under this law.[11][12] These punishments continued into the Renaissance, and spread to the Swiss canton of Zürich. Knight Richard von Hohenberg (died 1482) was burned at the stake together with his lover, his young squire, during this time. In France, French writer Jacques Chausson (1618–1661) was also burned alive for attempting to seduce the son of a nobleman.

    • Ken Temple says:

      Who says the Old Testament is temporal for specific time and people during the so-called Theocratic Israel?

      Not all the OT; but the political theocratic aspects of Israel – Jesus said, “I am taking the kingdom of God away from Israel” – see Matthew 21:43-45, NT churches never commanded to do violence. They excommunicated people or expelled people from church ( 1 Corinthians chapter 5; 6:9-11, but no executions).

      “expel the evil person from among you.” I Corinthians 5:13

      see also Matthew 18:15-20

      The Reformed Protestants have always distinguished between:
      1. The Moral law that never changes.
      2. The ceremonial laws of the temple, sacrifices, feasts, food laws.
      3. The Civil laws of theocratic Israel.

      • θ says:

        “Ken Temple says: NT churches never commanded to do violence. ”

        Eh, that is really a big lie, is now Taqiyya a newest evolution adopted by Christian theology? Worse than a lone-wolf radical, The NT condones the greater terrors indirectly in Rom 13, as a greater, systemic, vast scale of violence.
        Vengeance belongs to God alone, eh? Not so fast. “For he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath.”
        Rom 13:2-6 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? 4 For he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God’s ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.

      • Ken Temple says:

        that is the state government, not the church.

        and

        Eh, that is really a big lie, is now Taqiyya a newest evolution adopted by Christian theology?

        So you agree that Islam has Taqiyya in it and justifies it? (deception, lying, dissimulation, passive lying)

  6. θ says:

    Who says the West (even after the Reformation) is not as Islamist as Moslems concerning the penalty of Homos? Even worse, the Westerners were more cruel with immolation by fire alive.

    342 – The first law against same-sex marriage was promulgated by the Christian emperors Constantius II and Constans.[24]
    390 – The Christian emperors Valentinian II, Theodosius I and Arcadius declared homosexual sex to be illegal and those who were guilty of it were condemned to be burned alive in front of the public.[25]

    5th century
    498 – In spite of the laws against gay sex, the Christian emperors continued to collect taxes on male prostitutes until the reign of Anastasius I, who finally abolishes the tax.[26]

    6th century
    529 – The Christian emperor Justinian I (527–565) made homosexuals a scapegoat for problems such as “famines, earthquakes, and pestilences.”[27]
    576 – Death of Anastasia the Patrician who had spent much of her life living disguised as a male monk in a monastery at Alexandria.
    589 – The Visigothic kingdom in Spain, is converted from Arianism to Catholicism. This conversion leads to a revision of the law to conform to those of Catholic countries. These revisions include provisions for the persecution of gays and Jews.[28]

    7th century
    654 – The Visigothic Kingdom criminalized sodomy and the punishment for it is castration. This is the first European secular law to criminalize sodomy.[29][30]
    693 – In Iberia, Visigothic ruler Egica of Hispania and Septimania, demanded that a Church council confront the occurrence of homosexuality in the Kingdom. The Sixteenth Council of Toledo issued a statement in response, which was adopted by Egica, stating that homosexual acts be punished by castration, exclusion from Communion, hair shearing, one hundred stripes of the lash, and banishment into exile.[31]

    11th century
    1007 – The Decretum of Burchard of Worms equates homosexual acts with other sexual transgressions such as adultery and argues, therefore, that it should have the same penance (generally fasting).[14]
    1051 – Peter Damian writes the treatise Liber Gomorrhianus, in which he argues for stricter punishments for clerics failing their duty against “vices of nature.”[33]
    1100 – Ivo of Chartres tries to convince Pope Urban II about homosexuality risks. Ivo accused Rodolfo, archbishop of Tours, of convincing the King of France to appoint a certain Giovanni as bishop of Orléans. Giovanni was well known as Rodolfo’s lover and had relations with the king himself, a fact of which the king openly boasted. Pope Urban, however, didn’t consider this as a decisive fact: Giovanni ruled as bishop for almost forty years, and Rodolfo continued to be well known and respected.[34]

    12th century
    1102 – The Council of London took measures to ensure that the English public knew that homosexuality was sinful.
    1120 – Baldwin II of the Kingdom of Jerusalem, convenes the Council of Nablus to address the vices within the Kingdom. The Council calls for the burning of individuals who perpetually commit sodomy.[14]
    1140 – The Italian Monk Gratian compiles his work Concordia discordantium canonum in which he argues that sodomy is the worst of all the sexual sins because it involves using the member in an unnatural way.[14]
    1179 – The Third Lateran Council of Rome issues a decree for the excommunication of sodomites.

    13th century
    1232 – Pope Gregory IX starts the Inquisition in the Italian City-States. Some cities called for banishment and/or amputation as punishments for 1st- and 2nd-offending sodomites and burning for the 3rd or habitual offenders.
    1260 – In the Kingdom of France, first-offending sodomites lost their testicles, second offenders lost their member, and third offenders were burned. Women caught in same-sex acts could be mutilated and executed as well.[14]
    1265 – Thomas Aquinas argues that sodomy is second only to bestiality in the ranking of sins of lust.
    1283 – The Coutumes de Beauvaisis dictats that convicted sodomites should not only be burned but also that their property would be forfeited.

    14th century
    1308-14 – Philip IV of France orders the arrest of all Templars on charges of heresy, idolatry and sodomy, but these charges are only a pretext to seize the riches of the order. Order leaders are sentenced to death and burned at the stake on 18 March 1314 by Notre Dame.
    1321 – Dante’s Inferno places sodomites in the Seventh Circle.
    1327 – The deposed King Edward II of England is killed, allegedly by forcing a red-hot poker through his rectum. Edward II had a history of conflict with the nobility, who repeatedly banished his former lover Piers Gaveston, the Earl of Cornwall.
    1347 – Rolandino Roncaglia is tried for sodomy, an event that caused a sensation in Italy. He confessed he “had never had sexual intercourse, neither with his wife nor with any other woman, because he had never felt any carnal appetite, nor could he ever have an erection of his virile member”. After his wife died of plague, Rolandino started to prostitute himself, wearing female dresses because “since he has female look, voice and movements – although he does not have a female orifice, but has a male member and testicles – many persons considered him to be a woman because of his appearance”.[35]
    1370s – Jan van Aersdone and Willem Case were two men executed in Antwerp in the 1370s. The charge against them was same sex intercourse which was illegal and strenuously vilified in medieval Europe.[citation needed] Aersdone and Case stand out because records of their names have survived. One other couple still known by name from the 14th century were Giovanni Braganza and Nicoleto Marmagna of Venice.[36]
    1395 – John Rykener, known also as Johannes Richer and Eleanor, was a transvestite prostitute working mainly in London (near Cheapside), but also active in Oxford. He was arrested in 1395 for cross-dressing and interrogated.

    15th century
    1424 – Bernardino of Siena preached for three days in Florence, Italy against homosexuality and other forms of lust, culminating in a pyre in which burned cosmetics, wigs and all sorts of articles for the beautification. He calls for sodomites to be ostracized from society, and these sermons alongside measures by other clergy of the time strengthens opinion against homosexuals and encourages the authorities to increase the measures of persecution[37]
    1432 – In Florence the first organization specifically intended to prosecute sodomy is established, the “Night Officials”, which over the next 70 years arrest about 10,000 men and boys, succeeding in getting about 2,000 convicted, with most then paying fines.
    1451 – Pope Nicholas V enables the papal Inquisition to persecute men who practice sodomy.
    1475 – In Peru, a chronicle written under the Capac Yupanqui government describes the persecution of homosexuals with public burnings and destruction of homes (a practice usually reserved for conquered tribes).
    1483 – The Spanish Inquisition begins. Sodomites were stoned, castrated, and burned. Between 1540 and 1700, more than 1,600 people were prosecuted for sodomy.[14]
    1492 – Desiderius Erasmus writes a series of love letters to a fellow monk while at a monastery in Steyn in the Netherlands.[39]
    1494 – Girolamo Savonarola criticizes the population of Florence for its “horrible sins” (mainly homosexuality and gambling) and exhorts them to give up their young and beardless lovers.
    1497 – In Spain the Ferdinand and Isabella strengthen the sodomy laws hitherto applied only in the cities. An increase is made in the severity of the crime equating to treason or heresy, and the amount of evidence required for conviction is lowered, with torture permitted to extract confession. The property of the defendant is also confiscated.

    16th century
    1502 – A charge is brought against the Italian artist Sandro Botticelli on the grounds of sodomy.[40]
    1513 – Vasco Núñez de Balboa, a conquistador in modern-day Panama is described as throwing forty homosexual native indians to his dogs.[41]
    1523 – First of several charges of sodomy brought against the Florentine artist Benvenuto Cellini.[42]
    1532 – The Holy Roman Empire makes sodomy punishable by death.[14]
    1533 – King Henry VIII passes the Buggery Act 1533 making anal intercourse and zoophilia punishable by death throughout England.[44]
    1543 – Henry VIII gives royal assent to the Laws in Wales Act 1542, extending the buggery law into Wales.
    1553 – Mary Tudor ascends the English throne and removes all of the laws that had been passed by Henry VIII during the English Reformation of the 1530s.
    1558–1563 – Elizabeth I reinstates Henry VIII’s old laws, including the Buggery Act 1533.[14]

    17th century
    1610 – The Colony of Virginia enacts a military order that criminalizes male sodomy, making it punishable by death.[45]
    1610 – In the Colony of Virginia, the military order banning sodomy ended when martial law was terminated upon the change in control of Virginia Colony.[45]
    1620 – Brandenburg-Prussia criminalizes sodomy, making it punishable by death.[14]
    1624 – Richard Cornish of the Virginia Colony is tried and hanged for sodomy.[46]
    1648 – In Canada’s first-ever criminal trial for the crime of homosexuality, a gay military drummer stationed at the French garrison in Ville-Marie, New France is sentenced to death by the local Sulpician priests.[47] After an intervention by the Jesuits in Quebec City, the drummer’s life is spared on the condition that he accept the position of New France’s first permanent executioner.[47]
    1649 – The first known conviction for lesbian activity in North America occurs in March when Sarah White Norman is charged with “Lewd behaviour with each other upon a bed” with Mary Vincent Hammon in Plymouth, Massachusetts. Hammon was under 16 and not prosecuted.[48]
    1655 – The Connecticut Colony passes a law against sodomy, which includes a punishment for lesbian intercourse as well.[49]
    1661 – The Colony of Virginia enacts English common law, thus making criminalizing male-to-male sodomy again.[45]
    1683 – The Kingdom of Denmark criminalizes “relations against nature”, making it punishable by death.[50]

    18th century
    1721 – Catherina Margaretha Linck is executed for female sodomy in Germany.
    1726 – Mother Clap’s molly house in London is raided by police, resulting in the execution of three men.[52]
    Between 1730 and 1811, a widespread panic in the Dutch Republic leads to a spectacular series of trials for sodomy, with persecutions at their most severe from 1730 to 1737, 1764, 1776, and from 1795 to 1798.[citation needed]

    19th century
    1814 – The term “Crime against nature” first used in the Criminal code in the United States.
    1835 – For the first time in history, homosexuality becomes illegal in Congress Poland, Russian part of the Poland acquired after the Partitions of Poland after it became part of the Russian Empire.
    1836 – The last known execution for homosexuality in Great Britain. James Pratt and John Smith are hanged at Newgate prison, London after being caught together in private lodgings[55]
    1861 – In England, the Offences against the Person Act 1861 is amended to remove the death sentence for “buggery” (which had not been used since 1836). The penalty became imprisonment from 10 years to life.
    1869 – The term “homosexuality” appears in print for the first time in a German-Hungarian pamphlet written by Karl-Maria Kertbeny (1824–1882).
    1871 – Homosexuality is criminalized throughout the German Empire by Paragraph 175 of the Reich Criminal Code;
    1886 – In England, the Criminal Law Amendment Act 1885, outlawing sexual relations between men (but not between women) is given Royal Assent by Queen Victoria. Portugal re-criminalizes homosexual acts.
    1895 – The trial of Oscar Wilde results in his being prosecuted under the Criminal Law Amendment Act 1885 for “gross indecency” and sentenced to two years hard labor in prison.

    20th century
    1901–1909
    1903 – In New York on 21 February 1903, New York police conducted the first United States recorded raid on a gay bathhouse, the Ariston Hotel Baths. 26 men were arrested and 12 brought to trial on sodomy charges; 7 men received sentences ranging from 4 to 20 years in prison.[59]
    1907 – Adolf Brand, the activist leader of the Gemeinschaft der Eigenen, working to overturn Paragraph 175, publishes a piece “outing” the imperial chancellor of Germany, Prince Bernhard von Bülow. The Prince sues Brand for libel and clears his name; Brand is sentenced to 18 months in prison.[60]
    1907–1909 – Harden-Eulenburg Affair in Germany[61] Between 1906 and 1907, six military officers committed suicide after blackmail, while in the preceding three years, around twenty officers were convicted by courts-martial, all for their homosexual acts.

    • Ken Temple says:

      Are you trying to justify the Orlando killing of those in the homosexual night club, by the Muslim, Omar Matin ?

      that Muslim was wrong to do that violence and take the law into his own hands. evil.

      The original post is about how a Christian won over a lesbian by love and hospitality and gentle questions. That is the truth of how to witness to people, not violence.

  7. θ says:

    “Ken Temple says: Are you trying to justify the Orlando killing of those in the homosexual night club, by the Muslim, Omar Matin ?”

    Do you approve same-sex relation that is a fornication?
    In the peacetime, Homos just need to be quarantined from the rest normal generations, like at a separated island.

    Jude 1:7
    Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
    1Cor 7:2
    Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

    • Ken Temple says:

      Do you approve same-sex relation that is a fornication?

      Obviously not. If you read my articles on that; you see that it is sin and wrong.

      But violence to them is also wrong.

      • θ says:

        “Ken Temple says: But violence to them is also wrong.”

        Homos are abnormal and sick genetically, they too can be killers when they are hurt in a painful Love Feud among themselves.

        A gay drunkard gave allegiance to ISIS?
        http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/pulse-orlando-nightclub-shooting/os-orlando-nightclub-omar-mateen-profile-20160613-story.html

        FORT PIERCE – At least four regular customers at the gay Orlando nightclub where a gunman killed 49 people Sunday morning said today that they believe they had seen the killer, Omar Mateen, there before.
        “Sometimes he would go over in the corner and sit and drink by himself, and other times he would get so drunk he was loud and belligerent,” said Ty Smith, who also uses the name Aries.
        He saw Mateen at the club at least a dozen times, he told the Orlando Sentinel.
        “We didn’t really talk to him a lot, but I remember him saying things about his dad at times,” Smith said. “He told us he had a wife and child.”

        Just before or during the standoff, he had called 911, according to authorities, and claimed allegiance to the Islamic State.

  8. θ says:

    “Ken Temple says: that is the state government, not the church.”

    Says who? Is not the church’s head Jesus, eh?
    In fact, Paul specifically avoids the use of the word Governor or Caesar or magistrate, he uses a cryptic term to obscure the phrase “Power ordained by God” to refer to none but the churches rather than a heathen rulers.

  9. θ says:

    “Ken Temple says: (Eh, that is really a big lie, is now Taqiyya a newest evolution adopted by Christian theology? ) So you agree that Islam has Taqiyya in it and justifies it? deception, lying, dissimulation, passive lying”

    What is in the name? Taqiyya is not deception, it is just the Art of pragmatism for good. Jesus was one of the renowned Taqiyyists ever.
    Lk 16:9
    And I say unto you, Make to yourselves friends of the mammon of unrighteousness; that, when ye fail, they may receive you into everlasting habitations.

  10. θ says:

    A gay drunkard gave allegiance to ISIS?
    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/pulse-orlando-nightclub-shooting/os-orlando-nightclub-omar-mateen-profile-20160613-story.html

    FORT PIERCE – At least four regular customers at the gay Orlando nightclub where a gunman killed 49 people Sunday morning said today that they believe they had seen the killer, Omar Mateen, there before.
    “Sometimes he would go over in the corner and sit and drink by himself, and other times he would get so drunk he was loud and belligerent,” said Ty Smith, who also uses the name Aries.
    He saw Mateen at the club at least a dozen times, he told the Orlando Sentinel.
    “We didn’t really talk to him a lot, but I remember him saying things about his dad at times,” Smith said. “He told us he had a wife and child.”

    Just before or during the standoff, he had called 911, according to authorities, and claimed allegiance to the Islamic State.

  11. θ says:

    Now Americans and the world can ponder a different narrative by claiming that the Homos’ restrained homosexuality caused terrorism and sympathy of ISIS, not religious views.
    A homo who extremely troubled by his own urges, unbalanced. suppressed, unstable, even being under surveillance of Government security, can cause such an unpredictable consequence of the shooting of other gays inside the gay nightclub while suddenly claiming a ISIS supporter. Since when has ISIS had gays?

    http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/orlando-shooter-omar-mateen-was-gay-former-classma/nrfwW/
    Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says
    A former classmate of Omar Mateen’s 2006 police academy class said he believed Mateen was gay, saying Mateen once asked him out.
    Officials say Mateen shot and killed 49 people and injured 53 others at an Orlando nightclub early Sunday morning.
    The classmate said that he, Mateen and other classmates would hang out, sometimes going to gay nightclubs, after classes at the Indian River Community College police academy. He said Mateen asked him out romantically.

  12. θ says:

    Islam should not be judged by the secular people who committed a worse crime of more than 50 Million killings since the 19th century (War worlds, Communist revolution, colonisation, Cold war, et cetera) in a regional scale, altogether with a prolonging secular territorial invasion in Moslem land, that is the existence of Israel state upon Palestine.

    On the contrary, at most Moslems just cause around a half million victims since 19th century with a local scale terrorism, and have not invaded any Western land whatsoever.
    50:0.5 = 100 times.

    Secular people haven’t reformed or disavowed Secularism after so many crimes they did, so why would Moslems reform Islam?
    Islam is as unreformed as Secularism.

  13. θ says:

    Fact 1: According to the background checks, mostly the US terrorists came from the same background as American-born son of the immigrants. Hence nearly more than 75% Americans should be suspected as potential terrorists, including politicians, Republicans and Democrats, since they all the children of the European immigrants.

    Fact 2: No one of the newly immigrants or the new citisens has committed terrorism yet.
    It is unfair or unjust for the newly immigrants or the new citisens to hold responsibility for the terrorism committed by American-born men (who may commit to serve xenophobic agenda to stop immigration in order to reduce the tight competition of seeking the jobs in the US).

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