Debate: James White vs. Shabir Ally, “Sin and Salvation”

James White debates Islamic scholar Shabir Ally on the topic of Sin and Salvation in the Qur’an vs the Bible at the Erasmia Hall Mosque in South Africa.

About Ken Temple

I am a follower of Jesus Christ. I am a sinner who has been saved by the grace of God alone (Ephesians 2:8-9), through faith alone (Galatians 2:16; Romans 3:28; 4:1-16), in Christ alone (John 14:6). But a true faith does not stay alone, it should result in change, fruit, good works, and deeper levels of repentance and hatred of my own sins of selfishness and pride. I am not better than you! I still make mistakes and sin, but the Lord is working on me, conforming me to His character. (Romans 8:28-29; 2 Corinthians 3:16-18) When I do sin, I hate the sin as it is an affront to God, and seek His forgiveness in repentance. (Mark 1:15; 2 Corinthians 7:7-10; Colossians 3:5-16 ) Praise God for His love for sinners (Romans 5:8), shown by the voluntary coming of Christ and His freely laying down His life for us (John 10:18), becoming flesh/human (John 1:1-5; 1:14; Philippians 2:5-8), dying for sins of people from all nations, tribes, and cultures (Revelation 5:9), on the cross, in history, rising from the dead (Romans 10:9-10; Matthew 28, Mark 16:1-8; Luke 24; John 20-21; 1 Corinthians chapter 15). His resurrection from the dead proved that Jesus is the Messiah, the eternal Son of God, the word of God from eternity past; and that He was all the gospels say He was and that He is truth and the life and the way to salvation. (John 14:6)
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1 Response to Debate: James White vs. Shabir Ally, “Sin and Salvation”

  1. θ says:

    Firstly the Torah’s Law designates the burning of fats of animal sacrifice and sum of money for Jewish repentant. At that time they were under the religious control of “major Prophets”.

    But, after the sins become totally out-of-control, Jehovah reasoned by demanding Jewish sinners to repent and pray – yet under same Torah’s Law – without contradiction. Toward Jewish Prophets, Jehovah also decides to lower down their status to be “minor Prophets”, even He stops the Jewish Prophethood forever.

    Isa 1
    18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool. 19 If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land:

    Qur’an and Jesus have same concept of sin. According to Jesus, sin is a stagnancy. According to Qur’an, sin is a weightless deed. Jesus uses a nice parable of talents. There’s a shortsighted servant who wrongly assumes that the sum of money his master entrusted to him is not going to benefit himself, why shall he labor hard with the money simply to enrich his master? Eventually, he hides the money so that the amount doesn’t increase.
    Hence, although a servant is not guilty of losing the money but he is guilty of not enriching his master’s money he is entrusted with.

    Sin is a stagnancy.
    Adam makes a stagnancy of blessing for himself in Eden by sin of eating the evil fruit. People of Noah make a stagnancy of goodness for themselves by sin of indulging their mind with evil inclination.

    Sin is a weightless deed.
    In Islam, Christians and Jews shall take any weightless deed of Moslems in Afterlife. By appearance the sin can be as big as the mountain, as many as dust, as red as a filthy rags, as delicious as an Edenic apple, but it is just weightless.

    Mustadrak al-Hakim Hadith 193.
    Narrated Abu Musa: Allah’s Messenger said: Unload the sins from them and put the same over the Jews and Christians: then let the humble slaves get into Paradise by virtue of My Mercy.

    That’s why Allah doesn’t need any human’s death to redeem a weightless nonsense.
    Figuratively, Allah can easily throw any weightless sin under a carpet with repentance, it is just as easy as like clicking the fingers, or giving a nod, or twinkling the eyes. But similarly He can attach it back again to soul of a fallen repentant.
    Jn 5
    14 Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.
    Mt 25
    18 But he that had received one went and digged in the earth, and hid his lord’s money.24 Then he which had received the one talent came and said, Lord, I knew thee that thou art an hard man, reaping where thou hast not sown, and gathering where thou hast not strawed:25 And I was afraid, and went and hid thy talent in the earth: lo, there thou hast that is thine.

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