Debate: Is Muhammad prophesied in the Bible?

This is an excellent debate and I really appreciate the Muslims allowing a debate in their Mosque. (The East London Mosque, London, England)   This debate took place in 2012. Abdullah Al Andalousi did a great job in moderating and Zakir Hossein had a good spirit and tried hard to make his case for the Islamic position.

Dr. James White said something very important at the beginning of his time: (at the 31 minute mark)  My paraphrase – “We need to do this kind of thing more often, especially in the light of what is going on in our world today – communicate with each other with repect and honesty, to debate and disagree without being violent.”  Amen! Some select points and notes of important issues in this debate:

All of my notes are based on Dr. White’s answers and I have expanded and explained things more at some points.  

Because of Surah 7:157, Muslims are forced to try and find Muhammad in the Bible, because this verse in the Qur’an says, “whom they will find in the Torah and the Gospel”.

Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered prophet, whom they find written in what they have of the Torah and the Gospel, who enjoins upon them what is right and forbids them what is wrong and makes lawful for them the good things and prohibits for them the evil and relieves them of their burden and the shackles which were upon them. So they who have believed in him, honored him, supported him and followed the light which was sent down with him – it is those who will be the successful. Surah 7:157  (Sahih International version)

I just noticed that translation “in what they have of the Torah and the Gospel”.  (see ten other Qur’an translations into English)   “in what they have” is not there in the Arabic, and seems to imply that the Christians only have some of the original books.

Song of Solomon 5:16

“His mouth is full of sweetness. And he is wholly desirable. This is my beloved and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem.” This is the weakest of all the Muslims attempts to find Muhammad in the Bible.  Even weaker than John 14 and 16 and Deuteronomy 18:15-18.  Muslims are trying to claim that this is about Muhammad, because of the similar sound of the Arabic word for Muhammad and the Hebrew word “pleasant, desirable” (מחמדים – Makhmadim).  But the context is two lovers and the whole Song of Solomon is about romantic love and feelings for one another before they get married, and then their sexual love within marriage.  It is a celebration of romantic love, communication with each other, husband and wife and speaking to each other describing each other, and holy sex within marriage.  Sex was God’s idea and is pure within marriage. (Genesis chapters 1-2; Proverbs 5:15-19; Matthew 19:4-6; 1 Corinthians chapter 7) It is the bride’s description of her soon to be husband.  So there is nothing about Muhammad here. Makhmadim –  “desirable” מחמדים Mamtaqim – “sweetness” ממתקים  – sweetness This is poetry; similar sounding ending to the other word (” . . .im” or “eem” – ים – ממתקים ) , in the Hebrew parallelism for “sweetness”.  “Sweetness” and “desirable” are in what is known as Hebrew parallelism in poetry. Balsam wood/trees -Song of Solomon 5:13 and 6:2.  Balsam wood is also from Arabia and Mecca.  Genesis 37:25 mentions the Ishmaelites bringing “aromatic gum, balm, and myrrh” to Egypt.  Ok, but Dr. White points out that Solomon brought a lot of things from a lot of different countries.  He was rich and powerful.  He had cedar trees from Lebanon (Song 5:15) and lilies (5:13; 6:2) there also, as described in the Song of Solomon.  Song of Solomon 6:2 shows it was his garden in Jerusalem, nothing about Muhammad in Arabia.   Dr. White  – Surah 7:157 – “whom they find in the Gospel and the Torah” No Christian at the time of Jesus, nor the apostles, nor any early church father ever wrote or said they expected a prophet from Arabia.

back to Song of Solomon 5:16 –  This is poetry; the bride speaking to bridegroom. The  2 words, ending with “eem”, rhymes with “sweetness” and “pleasant”.   Balsam was in his garden in Jerusalem, so were cedars of Lebanon Solomon, and lilies and other things that Solomon brought from all over the world.

Lillies – Song of Solomon 6:2 – are lilies in Mecca? no.

Makhmad – to try and say this is Muhammad just because of the similar sound is not a good intellectual argument.  The root word is in other verses – 1 Kings 20:6 – same root word, makhmad / מחמד – “desirable” – “whatever is desirable in your eyes, they will take in their hand and carry away.” Was Muhammad carried in their hands and taken away? מחמד same word used in these two passages also: 2 Chronicles 36:19 – was Muhammad destroyed by fire ? Isaiah 64:10 – did Muhammad become a ruin?

John chapters 14, 15, and 16 – the comforter, the paraklatos, the one called alongside to help, the helper, the advocate.  Because of Surah 61:6 and the claim that “Ahmad” is in the gospel, Muslims try to find that “Ahmad” ( احمد – meaning, “praised one”, another form of Muhammad (محمد) in these passages by claiming that the “Paraclete” / paraklatos / παρακλητος  (the helper, comforter, counselor) was originally “periklutos” (praised one).

John 14:16-17

John 14:26;

John 15:26;

John 16:7

There is no evidence of any textual change from Periklutos to Paraklatos.  Muslims have to claim that originally the text said, “periklytos”, but that someone later changed it.  However, there is no textual variant that would point to any evidence of periklutos in those texts in john 14 or 16.

παρακλητος – the helper, the comforter, the one called alongside to help

περικλυτος – “praised one” big difference.

And there is no textual evidence in any manuscript that backs up “periklutos” (praised one) Dr. White makes an excellent point about the vowels in Greek being part of the word.   This is about the Holy Spirit when Jesus ascends to the Father (see also Acts 2:33-36); it is not about someone coming 600 years later.   John 13-17 is a consistent whole. It is Trinitarian in structure; describes the different roles of Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, and how they relate to one another.  How they relate to one another in speaking to one another, communicating, etc. speaks of personal relationship and person-hood.  that is why “person” describes the three-ness of the Trinity, and nature/substance describes the Oneness of the Trinity. another comforter of the same kind, Greek: allos / αλλος will be with believers forever (John 14:16) He will be in the disciples; in believers. (John 14:17)  This verse alone defeats the Muslim’s arguments for the John 14 and 16 and Ahmad argument, because Muhammad cannot be “in” the disciples nor any Christian in the future.  The world cannot see the Holy Spirit, but the world, the people knew Muhammad as a man – Muslims who accepted him as a prophet and the Quryaish pagans who rejected him and fought battles and wars and caravan raids against him.  His life was “of this world”, physical, and in the context of much war. “Spirit” is not human, He is Spirit  (John 14:17; 14:26; 16:13) dwells within believers – John 14:17 – “He abides with you and will be in you.”  That alone makes it impossible for the paraclete to be Muhammad of Arabia. The paraclete is called, “the Holy Spirit”, and “the Spirit of Truth”.  He is a spirit, not a man, like Muhammad.  The Holy Spirit will bring to remembrance all things (John 14:26) that Jesus taught, yet there is nothing much in the Qur’an from Jesus’ teaching or the NT.  There is no quote from the New Testament. The Qur’an knows nothing as quotes from NT – no new info. (there are references to Jesus as Al Masih, virgin born, son of Mary, taught the gospel, was given the “Injeel”, did miracles, etc. yes, but no direct quotes.)   No quotes; only phrases like: Jesus is the Messiah, virgin born, prophet, “a Word from Allah”, a spirit from Allah. John 15:26 – proceeds from the Father.  This is Deity language – proceeding out from the Father. Paraclete is sent by Jesus (John 15:26 – “I will send to you from the Father”) Testifies to Jesus (John 15:27) and glorifies Jesus. (John 16:14) if Mohammad is sent by Jesus then Jesus is God; since only God sends prophets. Guides the disciples into all the truth, not people 600 years later.

Deuteronomy 18:15-18

The context of Deuteronomy 18:15-18 totally defeats the Muslim’s claim that Muhammad is found there. Context in Deuteronomy 18:2 – Levites, among their brothers- verse 5 – out from the 12 tribes of Israel. context of a term is most important Deuteronomy 17:15 a king one from among your brothers, not from a foreigner; must be an Israelite.  This alone defeats the Muslim’s arguments concerning Deut. 18:15-18.  He will give revelation like Moses did Acts 3:22-25 shows the NT and Jewish disciples understood that Jesus fulfilled Deut. 18:15-18. John 14:24 Jesus’ words are divine words – from the Father John 8:28 – Isaiah 43:10 – “I am” I speak these things as the Father taught Me.

Jeremiah 6:22 – “a great nation” – same phrase used about Babylonians pagans.  Zakir Hossein asks, “is a nation great that is pagan?  the promise of “I will make a great nation” (Genesis 12:2; Genesis 17:20) must be fulfilled when Islam started, since only then did they turn from their idols and paganism. ”   It was a pretty good argument, until Dr. White pointed out that the same phrase is used  in Jeremiah 6:22 of a pagan idol worshiping nation – the Babylonians.  Jeremiah 6:22 proves Zakir wrong, as the same phrase is used of the Babylonian pagans as a “great nation”.   John 1 – the Jews asked John the Baptist if he was “the prophet” because he was a Jew, not because he was from Arabia or somewhere else.

Matthew 2:23

Matthew 2:23 was not part of the subject of the debate about Muhammad in the OT, but Zakir Hossein asked about it, because he seems to be saying that the NT authors tried to just go back and find things in the OT that may be used to show Jesus fulfilled them.  He was trying to say that finding Muhammad in Song of Solomon, etc. was legitimate, for example because of the prophesy of Jesus as a Nazerene (Nazer) of similar sound to the Hebrew word for branch in Isaiah 11:1.

Zakir Hossein asked about Matthew 2:23 and “where is it written in the prophets that Messiah would be called a Nazarene?”

First, notice it says, “through the prophets” – plural.  So he is speaking of a general concept that is in more than one prophet. “that what was spoken through the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene” (Matthew 2:23) “Nararene” – a Nazer – נצר – nzr – a rejected branch.  Nazareth was a rejected city in the North, in “Galilee of the Gentiles”; it was rejected by the Jews in the south and around Jerusalem, since it was a Galilean town.  (northern, Gentile, defiled by non-Jews).   “Can anything good come out of Nazareth?” (John 1:46; see also John 7:41 and 7:52)

So, “Nazareth” describes Jesus being rejected by the Jews. Isaiah 14:19 – “like a rejected branch” = כְּנֵצֶר נִתְעָב כ = like נצר =  NZR, Nazer, branch נתעב = rejected, despised Isaiah 11:1 – “then a shoot will spring from the stem of Jesse (father of David); and a branch (Nazer – נצר ) from his roots will bear fruit.” (see rest of Isaiah 11:1-10 – a very Messianic passage in the Jews minds.  This is referred to in Acts 13:22-23; and Isaiah 11:10 is quoted in Romans 15:12)

Isaiah 53:1-3 – concept of rejection, tender shoot, root out of dry ground

Who has believed our message? And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed? 2 For He grew up before Him like a tender shoot, And like a root out of parched ground; He has no stately form or majesty That we should look upon Him, Nor appearance that we should be attracted to Him. 3 He was despised and forsaken of men, A man of sorrows and acquainted with grief; And like one from whom men hide their face He was despised, and we did not esteem Him. Isaiah 53:1-3

There is another word for the Messiah as a “branch” צמח used often, combined with the concepts of shoot, root, sprout, and despised, shows that Matthew had many passages in mind when he wrote, “as it is spoken through the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene” – despised, rejected. Jeremiah 23:5 – Messiah will be a righteous branch. (צמח) Jeremiah 33:15 – a righteous branch (צמח )of David will spring forth Isaiah 4:2 – “branch of the Lord”  (צמח) Zechariah 3:8 – “they are a symbol, for behold, I am going to bring in My servant the branch.” (צמח) Zechariah 6:12 – the one whose name is “Branch” (צמח) There are several words for “branch”(צמח is used more often) with root and shoot (Isaiah 53:1-3; 11:1) and “Nezer” (נצר) is not always used in every passage.  But the concept of a branch, with the concepts of “shoot” and “root” and “rejected”; and the concept of being rejected combines all these passages as demonstrating what Matthew 2:23 was referring to.

Advertisements

About Ken Temple

I am a follower of Jesus Christ. I am a sinner who has been saved by the grace of God alone (Ephesians 2:8-9), through faith alone (Galatians 2:16; Romans 3:28; 4:1-16), in Christ alone (John 14:6). But a true faith does not stay alone, it should result in change, fruit, good works, and deeper levels of repentance and hatred of my own sins of selfishness and pride. I am not better than you! I still make mistakes and sin, but the Lord is working on me, conforming me to His character. (Romans 8:28-29; 2 Corinthians 3:16-18) When I do sin, I hate the sin as it is an affront to God, and seek His forgiveness in repentance. (Mark 1:15; 2 Corinthians 7:7-10; Colossians 3:5-16 ) Praise God for His love for sinners (Romans 5:8), shown by the voluntary coming of Christ and His freely laying down His life for us (John 10:18), becoming flesh/human (John 1:1-5; 1:14; Philippians 2:5-8), dying for sins of people from all nations, tribes, and cultures (Revelation 5:9), on the cross, in history, rising from the dead (Romans 10:9-10; Matthew 28, Mark 16:1-8; Luke 24; John 20-21; 1 Corinthians chapter 15). His resurrection from the dead proved that Jesus is the Messiah, the eternal Son of God, the word of God from eternity past; and that He was all the gospels say He was and that He is truth and the life and the way to salvation. (John 14:6)
This entry was posted in Apologetics, Islam, Muslims. Bookmark the permalink.

20 Responses to Debate: Is Muhammad prophesied in the Bible?

  1. Pingback: Debate: Is Muhammad prophesied in the Bible?

  2. θ says:

    Jesus promises the coming of Prophet Muhammad by 2 interpretations. As a man “Parakletos” literally and as the “abiding Spirit” (but not as Holy Spirit) in figurative speech. Moslems have a similar claim of Preexistence of Prophet Muhammad as the light in heaven in the form of the Spirit of Muhammad.
    Jn 14
    16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

    Moslems have stronger claim on the Comforter (Parakletos) than that of Christians.
    (i) Holy Spirit is not the Comforter because he doesn’t set the judgment to reprove the sinful world.
    Jn 16
    8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:9
    Of sin, because they believe not on me;

    (ii) Holy Spirit is not the Comforter because he doesn’t judge the Devil.
    Jn 16
    11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.

    (iii) Holy Spirit is not the Comforter because he does not abide (staying on the earth) with the believers forever. Prophet Muhammad existed as the light – spirit – and his body stays forever among all believers by getting buried on the earth.
    Jn 14
    16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

    Qur’an’s interpreters mention about the Preexistent Light that was sent down from Allah.
    Ibn Jawzi on Tafsir Qur’an 5:15.
    There has come to you a light from Allah. Qatadah said: The meaning of Nur is: The Prophet Muhammad, and others say, It is Islam, and third one Kitab al-Mubin that is Qur’an.

    Bayhaqi, Dala’il un Nubuwah: Vol 5, Page 483.
    Abu Hurairah narrates from the Messenger of Allah that he said: When Allah created Adam He informed him of his descendants, at this Adam saw superiority of some over others, then he saw me towards the end in form of an “Illuminating light”. He said: O my Lord who is this? The Lord replied: This is your son Ahmad who is the first, and the last and on the Day of Judgment he will be first to do intercession.

    At-Tirmidhi, Ibn Hibban.
    The Prophet was asked: When were you a Prophet? To which Prophet replied : When Adam was between the spirit and the body.

    Ahmad ibn Hanbal, Musnad, IV, 127; `Irbad b. Sariya, Bayhaqi, Delail, I, 83.
    “Truly I was already, in the sight of Allah, the Seal of Prophets, when Adam was still kneaded in his clay. I shall inform you of the meaning (ta’wil) of this. It is the supplication of my father Ibrahim (Q 2:129) and the glad tidings of my brother `Isa to his people (Q 61:6); and the vision my mother saw the night I was delivered: she saw a light that lit the palaces of Syro-Palestine so that she could see them.”

    Not only Prophet’s grave, even the grave of the early believers gets illuminated by the light on the earth, and gets witnessed by many people.
    Abu Dawud, Book 14, Hadith 2571.
    Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu’minin: When Negus died, we were told that a light would be seen perpetually at his grave.

  3. Ken Temple says:

    What an amazingly anachronistic and badly understood interpretation of John 14 and 16!!
    The Holy Spirit is the comforter, guide, helper, counselor, advocate, encourager (parakletos – παρακλετος) – the third person of the Holy Trinity. (Matthew 28:19; 2 Cor. 13:14) It shows you did not read the article and details; and maybe you didn’t listen to the debate. Dr. White totally demolished Zakir Hossein’s arguments. (and yours also)

    “I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you forever;
    that is the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not see Him or know Him, but you know Him because He abides with you and will be in you.” John 14:16-17

    The “you” that Jesus speaks to in the immediate context is the 11 disciples, who will, along with others be baptized by the Holy Spirit in Acts chapter 2, predicted in Acts 1:5-8. (about 50 days after Jesus’ resurrection from the dead.) They are those that believe in Jesus as Messiah, Son of God, God the Son, the eternal Word of God who became flesh. John 7:37-39 – “to those who would believe in Him”. Also the Spirit came immediately – a few days after Christ ascended to heaven – Acts 2:33-36.

    And the Holy Spirit lives inside believers. Muhammad came about 600 years later, was only a human, so it CANNOT be Muhammad. Whatever Islamic theologians try to say that Muhammad was a pre-existent “light” – that is their freedom to come up with that; but it is ridiculous, since they would also say that all the information in that light and guidance is all of the Qur’an and Hadith, Sira, etc. and it contradicts too much of the doctrines of the Bible and the doctrine of the Holy Spirit to even be remotely close. You can believe that (that Muhammad was a pre-existent light (of Sharia and Quran and Sunna, etc.) if you want to, but really; you should stop trying to use John 14 or 16 to say that was Muhammad. One of the weakest arguments Muslims have ever made.

    John 16:8-9 has to be seen in the larger context of John 16:7-15, and even chapters 12-21, and then chapter 1-21, which shows it cannot be Muhammad at all. The Holy Spirit convicts people internally about their sins and lack of righteousness and that they will be judged one day. The devil was judged at the cross – John 12:31 (the whole context of John chapters 12-20 is about Jesus going to the cross and paying the atonement for sins and rising from the dead; so, you have no right to separate and atomize a few verses out from the atonement of the cross and Jesus’ death and substitutionary atonement for sin); Hebrews 2:14; Colossians 2:13-15; 1 John 3:8, in that the devil has no power to overcome believers, because the Holy Spirit indwells believers; but the devil still exists and awaits final judgment. (Revelation 20:10-15) All other writings of the 27 books of the NT provide the context and theology of the Holy Spirit of John 14, 15:26-27, and John 16.

  4. θ says:

    “Ken Temple says: The devil was judged at the cross – John 12:31 (the whole context of John chapters 12-20 is about Jesus going to the cross and paying the atonement for sins and rising from the dead; so, you have no right to separate and atomize a few verses out from the atonement of the cross and Jesus’ death and substitutionary atonement for sin); ”

    Jesus is Holy Spirit itself? Jesus promises himself? In fact, Jesus says “when he is come”, and “if I go not away”, or “if I depart”, et cetera that means he promises someone else other than himself. Moreover, the judgment of Devil – by Parakletos – is promised to take place after Jesus returns to the Father, not when he went to Hades.
    Jn 16
    7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. 8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

  5. θ says:

    “Ken Temple says: Muhammad came about 600 years later, was only a human, so it CANNOT be Muhammad. Whatever Islamic theologians try to say that Muhammad was a pre-existent “light” – that is their freedom to come up with that; but it is ridiculous, since they would also say that all the information in that light and guidance is all of the Qur’an and Hadith, Sira, etc. and it contradicts too much of the doctrines of the Bible and the doctrine of the Holy Spirit to even be remotely close.”

    It is rather the consistency.
    Jesus claims his Christ status – that Moslems also believe in – by using the later argument of his Preexistence in the soul that is not informed by the Old Testament. Even he had almost got stoned for saying that.

  6. Ken Temple says:

    Inspired Injeel says Jesus is the Kalimat-Allah کلمه الله (word of God) from all eternity past. John 1:1 – alludes to Genesis 1:1. Isa Al Masih عیسی المسیح testified that He was there before Abraham was born; “I am” = Yahweh. John 8:56-58

  7. θ says:

    “Ken Temple says: Inspired Injeel says Jesus is the Kalimat-Allah کلمه الله (word of God) from all eternity past. John 1:1 – alludes to Genesis 1:1. Isa Al Masih عیسی المسیح testified that He was there before Abraham was born; “I am” = Yahweh. John 8:56-58 ”

    In Qur’an, precisely Jesus is never called Kalimat-Allah. Jesus is called Kalimatu-hu (indirectly), even Kalimatin min-hu (as separation), not directly called Kalimat-Allah.
    Moreover, in Qur’an there is another term “Kalimaat” which means many words in plural sense. Hence the Word is not uniquely singular.

    The term “Word of Allah” is certainly one of so many important divine attributes of Allah. But once the Word became “creation” or got entitled by other’s attribute (such as messenger or spirit of God) it becomes separated from Allah.
    In a nutshell, the Word is directly attached to individual, whereas the Son is separated. Your word is attached to yourself, but your son is not yourself anymore.

    Hence, had Jesus been “never” called the “Son” of God, we Moslems would have possibly considered to accept him as a divine attribute of Allah.

    For Moslems, the Son of God is as mortal as the image of God, servant of God, throne of God, temple of God, mount of God, city of God, messengers of God, books of God, days of God, and works of God. They are not God.

    Moreover, If Jesus were the Word of God literally, Jesus would not have spoken the “words” given by the Father to him. How could the Word be given the words?
    Jn 12
    49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

    If Jesus were the Word of God literally, God would not have spoken the “words” to Jesus. How could the Word have received the words?
    Jn 12:50
    And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.

  8. θ says:

    “Ken Temple says: Acts 2:33-36 explains that.”

    Acts 2:35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool. “I” = the Father with whom Christ sits, “thy” = Christ.
    Hence, Is the Father a Comforter who judged the Devil?

    Moreover the obvious preposition used there is “Until” is not “Before”. Hence the judgment of Devil shall take place “after” Christ ascended to heaven, not beforehand when he was on the cross.

  9. Ken Temple says:

    In Qur’an, precisely Jesus is never called Kalimat-Allah. Jesus is called Kalimatu-hu (indirectly), even Kalimatin min-hu (as separation), not directly called Kalimat-Allah.
    Moreover, in Qur’an there is another term “Kalimaat” which means many words in plural sense. Hence the Word is not uniquely singular.

    True. کلمه in Surah 4:171 – ُکَلَمتُه – his word (singular)
    کلمات – plural – “words” – not used about Al Masih Himself.

    But the singular کلمه is the only one used of Al Masih.
    That’s all I have time for right now.

  10. θ says:

    “Ken Temple says:mBut the singular کلمه is the only one used of Al Masih.”

    Not quite true unfortunately.
    There are 20 verses where the word “Kalimat” appears in Qur’an, including Kalimatul-Kufr, the word of disbelief (Q.9, v.74) , Kalimatin-Kabithat, the word of accursed (Q.14, v.26), Kalimatul-Adhab, the word of punishment (Q.39, v.19).
    Qur’an clearly calls itself Kalaam-Allah in Q.9, v.6; Q.2, v.75; Q.48, v.15 (the words of Allah).

  11. Ken Temple says:

    only one used of Al Masih ( I meant only the singular is used of Al Masih, the plural is not used of Him)

    is not the same as

    only used of Al Masih

  12. θ says:

    Please compare 7th century Arabic Injil (which is lost) with the Greek Gospel of John:
    (i) The word “My Father” in Greek Gospel is replaced with “the Lord” in Injil.
    (ii) Passage “Whom I will send” is replaced with “Whom God will send” in Injil.
    (iii) Passage “From the Father” is replaced with “From the Lord’s presence” in Injil.
    (iv) “Even the Spirit” is replaced with “And the Spirit”.
    (v) “Proceedeth from the Father” is replaced with “will have gone forth from the Lord’s presence”.
    (vi) “Not be offended” is replaced with “not be in doubt”.

    Jn 15
    23 He that hateth me hateth my Father also.24 If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both me and my Father.25 But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, They hated me without a cause.26 . But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:27 And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.1
    Jn.16
    1. These things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended.

    Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasul Allah, A. Guillaume.
    It is extracted from what John [Yuhannis] the apostle set down for them when he wrote the Gospel for them from the Testamant of Jesus Son of Mary: ‘He that hateth me hateth the Lord. And if I had not done in their presence works which none other before me did, they had not had sin: but from now they are puffed up with pride and think that they will overcome me and also the Lord. But the word that is in the Law must be fulfilled, ‘They hated me without a cause’ (ie. without reason). But when the Comforter [Munahhemana] has come whom God will send to you from the Lord’s presence, and the spirit of truth [ruhu`l-qist] which will have gone forth from the Lord’s presence he (shall bear) witness of me and ye also, because ye have been with me from the beginning. I have spoken unto you about this that you should not be in doubt.’
    “The Munahhemana (God bless and preserve him!) in Syriac is Muhammad; in Greek he is the Paraclete [Albaraqlitis ]”
    So Heraclius ordered the Roman generals [who were Christians] to assemble in a room and commanded that the doors should be fastened. Then he looked down on them from an upper chamber (for he was afraid of them) and said: “O Romans, I have brought you together for a good purpose. This man [i.e. Muhammad] has written me a letter summoning me to his religion. By God, he is truly the prophet whom we expect and find in our books, so come and let us follow him and believe in him that it may be well with us in this world and the next.”

    Guillaume:
    The menahhemana in Syriac means the life-giver and specifically the one who raises from the dead.

    Some untold miracles of Prophet Muhammad:
    (i) Resurrection of dead Prophets. (Only the living Prophets can do a prayer.)
    Narrated: Anas bin Malik, that the Messenger of Allah said: Then I entered Bait Al-Maqdis (Jerusalem) where the Prophets were assembled for me, and Jibrail brought me forward to lead them in prayer. Then I was taken up to the first heaven (An-Nasai, Ch 5 Hadith 451).

    I also saw myself among the group of apostles. I saw Moses saying prayer and found him to be a well-built man as if he was a man of the tribe of Shanu’a. I saw Jesus son of Mary offering prayer, of all of men he had the closest resemblance with ‘Urwa b. Masu’d al-Thaqafi. I saw Ibrahim offering prayer; he had the closest resemblance with your companion (the Prophet himself) amongst people. When the time of prayer came I led them. When I completed the prayer, someone said: Here is Malik, the keeper of the Hell; pay him salutations. I turned to him, but he preceded me in salutation. (Muslim, Book 1, Hadith 328)

    Anas reported Allah’s Messenger as saying: I happened to pass by Moses as he was busy in saying prayer in his grave (Muslim, Book 30, Hadith 5859)

    (ii) Having a talking meat, talking wolf and talking tree.
    He placed his hand in it and said, “Come to the blessed water, and the Blessing is from Allah.” I saw the water flowing from among the fingers of Allah’s Apostle , and no doubt, we heard the meal glorifying Allah, when it was being eaten (by him). (Bukhari, Book 56, Hadith 779)

    Ma’n reported I heard it from my father who said: I asked Masruq who informed the Messenger of Allah about the night when they heard the Qur’an. He said: Your father, Ibn Mas’ud, narrated it to me that a tree informed him about that. (Muslim, Book 4, Hadith 907)

  13. Ninja says:

    Some untold miracles of Prophet Muhammad: (i) Resurrection of dead Prophets. (Only the living Prophets can do a prayer.) Mehnamena = Live Giver / Raises from the dead

    It’s never being told as a miracle of resurrection by any SANE MUSLIM because simply Muhammad had no resurrection miracles at all according to all TRUE & SANE MUSLIMS

    Never in Quran nor Hadits Muhammad is identified to be raiser of the dead , This is heretical interpretation even from Islamic view.

    It’s just a pathetic effort from one ignorant muslim in his effort to try whatever he can to make his prophet looks good.

    There’s no need for Muhammad to ressurect anybody not only because Quran &Hadith never affirm about it but also according to muslim even the ordinary martyrs till now would be alive in their graves and hence also the prophets

    [ And say not of those who are slain (martyred) in the way of Allah, “they are dead”, nay, they are living, though you perceive it not” [Surah al-Baqarah, 154]

    Imam Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani (Allah have mercy on him) states:

    واحسن من هذا الجواب ان يقال ان حياته صلى الله عليه وسلم في القبر لايعقبها موت بل يستمر حيا والأنبياء احياء في قبورهم

    Translation: The best answer in this regard is that Prophet (Peace be upon him) is alive “IN HIS GRAVE AND DEATH WILL NEVER COME TO HIM” but he will remain alive, due to the fact that the PROPHET(S) REMAIN ALIVE IN THEIR GRAVES [Fath ul Bari, Sharh Sahih ul Bukhari (7/22)]

    http://ahlus-sunna.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=55 ]

    So this evidence clearly ANNULS Muhammad’s credential for being Mehnanema /Raiser of the Dead

    Even from True Islamic point of view to consider Muhammad can raise a dead man is considered as DEVIANT BELIEF and even CRAZY.

  14. θ says:

    It is a firm Islamic belief of all Moslems that Prophet’s Night Journey is uniquely physical. He sees how Moses is resurrected with stature like a well-built man. However they were just resurrected temporarily though.
    Had they kept alive, those all Prophets (including Abraham, Moses and Jesus) must have obligated to migrate to Medinah, follow, even go to the battles under Prophet Muhammad.

    The dead Prophets were made temporarily alive bodily, gather in Jerusalem, and pray – that is, standing, bowing, prostrating in flesh – during the Night Journey of Prophet Muhammad.

    Basically, the common dead people are given a “new consciousness” to get conversed by 2 Barzakh’s angels and take a long rest – by either watching from afar the bliss of Heaven or the horrors of Hell – depending on the Faith and certain deeds.
    The martyrs get – indirectly – to Heaven by being placed within the green birds of Paradise.

  15. Ninja says:

    Never in Quran nor Hadits Muhammad is identified to be raiser of the dead , This is heretical interpretation even from Islamic view.

    [ Imam Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani (Allah have mercy on him) states:

    واحسن من هذا الجواب ان يقال ان حياته صلى الله عليه وسلم في القبر لايعقبها موت بل يستمر حيا والأنبياء احياء في قبورهم

    Translation: The best answer in this regard is that Prophet (Peace be upon him) is alive “IN HIS GRAVE AND DEATH WILL NEVER COME TO HIM” but he will remain alive, due to the fact that the PROPHET(S) REMAIN ALIVE IN THEIR GRAVES [Fath ul Bari, Sharh Sahih ul Bukhari (7/22)]

    http://ahlus-sunna.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=55 ]

    .The belief of PROPHETS LIVING WITHIN THEIR GRAVES is the basic reason TO PERFORM DUAA / PRAYER AT THE GRAVES of Waleeyah & PROPHETS

    This has nothing to do with resurrection

  16. θ says:

    “Ninja says:.The belief of PROPHETS LIVING WITHIN THEIR GRAVES”

    Had they kept alive, those all Prophets (including Abraham, Moses and Jesus) must have obligated to migrate to Medinah, follow, even go to the battles under Prophet Muhammad.

    (i) It is a firm Islamic belief of all Moslems that Prophet’s Night Journey is uniquely physical.
    (ii) Prophet Muhammad sees how Moses is resurrected with stature like a well-built man.
    (iii) However the dead Prophets were just resurrected in body temporarily though.
    (iv) The dead Prophets were made temporarily alive bodily, gather in Jerusalem, and pray – that is, standing, bowing, prostrating in flesh – during the Night Journey of Prophet Muhammad.

  17. Ninja says:

    θ says: It is because the early and Medieval Moslems didn’t realise

    Thank you, you’re just admitting that you’re an AHL-BI’DAA = DEVIANT INVENTOR

    it’s pathetic effort to establish something from DEVIANT INVENTION

    Never in Quran nor Hadits Muhammad is identified to be raiser of the dead , This is heretical interpretation even from Islamic view.

    [ Imam Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani (Allah have mercy on him) states:

    واحسن من هذا الجواب ان يقال ان حياته صلى الله عليه وسلم في القبر لايعقبها موت بل يستمر حيا والأنبياء احياء في قبورهم

    Translation: The best answer in this regard is that Prophet (Peace be upon him) is alive “IN HIS GRAVE AND DEATH WILL NEVER COME TO HIM” but he will remain alive, due to the fact that the Prophets remain alive in their graves [Fath ul Bari, Sharh Sahih ul Bukhari (7/22)]

    http://ahlus-sunna.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=55 ]

    The True Teaching of Ahlu-Sunna AFFIRMS PROPHETS ARE ALIVE IN THEIR GRAVES , IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RESURRECTION

    The Salafist (Ahlul-Bidaa) opposes this authentic MAJORITY VIEW OF MUSLIM , that’s why you as Salafist differentiate

  18. θ says:

    How could the Ghost be a Comforter if it inflicts Paul with a continuous suffering in every city, ironically it is because he preaches his theology.
    Acts 20
    22 And now, behold, I go bound in the spirit unto Jerusalem, not knowing the things that shall befall me there:23 Save that the Holy Ghost witnesseth in every city, saying that bonds and afflictions abide me.

  19. θ says:

    Prophet Muhammad is the true Prophet of God because:
    (i) God’s own heart.
    Prophet Muhammad is Uswa Hasanah just as God calls David a man after God’s own heart even though David was a man whose hands bathe on blood of war.

    (ii) Not pastor-in-chief.
    Just as Jehovah chose David for the kingdom, Allah chooses Prophet Muhammad as the leader of Ummah, and not a follower.
    Jesus is a typical of pastor-in-chief. It means he is someone who has quality of being a “good follower” of the rulers no matter how cruel they are, and who advises the others to flee from city to city rather than to protect the country; and who brings economy (money, jobs, wealth) to the foreigners at overseas, and who would prefer to heal an ailed invader than his own friend, and who gives a spiritual counsel of immediately sheathing the sword after buying it.

    (iii) Proof of repentance.
    Just as David’s repentance, Prophet Muhammad’s legacy cannot be understood apart from his contrite heart in the face of his violent life – even though it is deemed necessary – that he is commanded by Allah to spend his life in continuous repentance, Q.110, v.3, Q.48, v.2.

    Just as David, Prophet Muhammad is known as a model ruler, a powerful leader with impressive civil and military successes. He was a valiant warrior, a staunch repentant to Allah, and merciful forgiver of the sinners.

    It is ironic that Jesus produced a bad theology of non-repented Jesus that ignores the importance of repentance of Jesus despite his Baptism by John, even worse the bad theology demonises the repentants such as Prophet Muhammad and Moslems.
    Amnesty that he gives to all heathens when he is conquering Mekka is a proof that Prophet Muhammad imposed a more higher self-restraint (than his previous pacifism for 13 years) by shunning all violence and giving a free amnesty at time when he is a victor and has a chance to slap the cheeks of his enemies. Repentance means seriously turning away from evilness in the past, along with asking forgiveness of God.

    (iv) Fruit of teaching.
    As it is from David’s family line that Jesus is born to teach theology of love, also it is from Prophet Muhammad the wisdom of Sufism is derived. It is by Sufis Islam was saved from Mongols when all Medieval caliphs and jihadists were defeated.

    Just as Jehovah had once offered the Torah to all Gentile nations – but nobody accepted it except Jews – also Allah offers the Islamic rite to every nations, including previous Prophets of Jews, Christians, and others, but nobody accepted it except Moslems, as indicated by Q.33, v.72-73. Islamic rite is Moslem’s honor because other nations refuse it, even it is rejected as rock of stumbling-block for others. In fact, Islamic rite which Allah offered to all – but only Moslems accept it – is the path of higher repentance, in light of Q.33, v.72-73.

Comments are closed.