Since they started learning our language, and challenging us in our mother tongue . . .

Ahmed Deedat explains why he started his own Islamic Da’wa (Invitation) – his work of debating Christians and inviting people to Islam.

Deedat recounts the author of the book, Izharul Haqq, noted that Arabs, Indians, and Persian Muslims in India (before creation of Pakistan and Bangla Desh), in the late 1800s, after missionaries began to learn Muslim languages such as Persian and Urdu (the language of Pakistan), Bengali, Gujarati, Punjabi, and Arabic, noted:

“Since they started learning our language, and challenging us in our mother tongue, the Muslims were forced to accept the challenge.”  “that is when we knew we had to respond.”

This demonstrates the power of learning another language in missions, in order to communicate the truth in such a way that the other culture actually really understands what we are saying.

Deedat found a book, the “Izhar Al Haqq” or “Izharul Haqq”  (Statement or Manifestation of the Truth or The Truth Revealed), which was a Muslim response to the Christian book, “Mizan Al Haqq” (The Balance of Truth), which was written in several Muslim languages, originally in Persian/Farsi, with quotes from Persian Sufi poets and from the Qur’an to prove their points.

One problem is that he attributes the motives of missionaries to political motives.  “to get the Muslims to turn the other cheek”.  (so they would not revolt against their British masters, the colonialists)

No; that was not the motivation of the missionaries!  That is the Islamic understanding of motives for their religion – it is political domination.  Muslims tend to see things through that perspective of their own and interpret the motives of others as that, usually.

The joke that Ahmed Deedat recounted was indeed funny!  Of course the mistake was that the missionary asked a question that can only be answered with trust in God’s Sovereignty, but the Muslim debater was very clever in his answer.  It works both ways – but God had a purpose in sending His Son to die on the cross.  The Muslim interprets this as a weakness on God’s part, and rejects the possibility of it; but the true God has made His truth and power known through the weakness of the cross.  “The message of the cross is the power and the wisdom of God”  ( 1 Corinthians 1:18-2:5)

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About Ken Temple

I am a follower of Jesus Christ. I am a sinner who has been saved by the grace of God alone (Ephesians 2:8-9), through faith alone (Galatians 2:16; Romans 3:28; 4:1-16), in Christ alone (John 14:6). But a true faith does not stay alone, it should result in change, fruit, good works, and deeper levels of repentance and hatred of my own sins of selfishness and pride. I am not better than you! I still make mistakes and sin, but the Lord is working on me, conforming me to His character. (Romans 8:28-29; 2 Corinthians 3:16-18) When I do sin, I hate the sin as it is an affront to God, and seek His forgiveness in repentance. (Mark 1:15; 2 Corinthians 7:7-10; Colossians 3:5-16 ) Praise God for His love for sinners (Romans 5:8), shown by the voluntary coming of Christ and His freely laying down His life for us (John 10:18), becoming flesh/human (John 1:1-5; 1:14; Philippians 2:5-8), dying for sins of people from all nations, tribes, and cultures (Revelation 5:9), on the cross, in history, rising from the dead (Romans 10:9-10; Matthew 28, Mark 16:1-8; Luke 24; John 20-21; 1 Corinthians chapter 15). His resurrection from the dead proved that Jesus is the Messiah, the eternal Son of God, the word of God from eternity past; and that He was all the gospels say He was and that He is truth and the life and the way to salvation. (John 14:6)
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10 Responses to Since they started learning our language, and challenging us in our mother tongue . . .

  1. θ says:

    Secularism already gets defeated in the West when the Western politicians try to politicise Islam. The effort to bring and set Islam into the politics in Secularism is excused and provoked by the politicised Islamophobia by the Western politicians.

  2. θ says:

    (i) Islam and Secularism.
    Moslems can ask a Secular commitment of any politician who tries to politicise Islam with religious hostility. Moslems can use the political invitation of Islamophobia to excuse the creation of Islamic political party in America and Europe as well.
    As self-defense, Western Moslems should react any attempt to politicise Islam in bad way with a counter-strategy of politicising Islam in a good way. Islam does encourage a political version of Islam in order to enhance Islam worldwide.
    It would be a great boon for Shari’ah Law if the invitation is rather started with a challenge of Western politicians themselves who call to end their Secularism once for all.
    Bukhari Vol.8 Book 77 Hadith 603
    Allah’s Apostle said, O Bilal, Get up and announce in public: None will enter Paradise but a believer, and Allah may support this religion (Islam) with a wicked man.
    Bukhari Vol.4 Book 52 Hadith 297
    Then he ordered Bilal to announce amongst the people: None will enter Paradise but a Muslim, and Allah may support this religion (i.e. Islam) even with a disobedient man.

    (ii) Islam and the “Biblical Son”.
    If the “Son of God” means the “Beloved friends”, not God’s seed, Qur’an is available for it:
    Q.62, v.6. Say, O you who are Jews, if you claim that you are friends of Allah beside humans, then commit ye to death, if you should be truthful.

    Since the “Son” is meant as “Lover” or “closest friends” in spiritual relationship, not the biological Son, actually Islam doesn’t deny the exalted status, even Islam respects the Jewish martyrs for Allah (Jehovah) as Allah’s beloved ones – just as the slain martyrs in the book of Revelations – including the Jewish Unitarian martyrs who followed Jesus.

    (iii) Islam and the Bible’s depiction of Jesus.
    On Hateful requirement.
    One of reasons why Moslems do not take Jesus whom the Bible depicted as “Uswah Hasana” is because unbelievably he requires Christians to “hate” everyone on his behalf, whereas Qur’an just requires Moslems to not befriend the discriminator who just selectively befriends Jews and Christians but excludes others.
    More intimate than just befriending, Qur’an allows Moslem men to marry the women of Jews and Christians. Prophet Muhammad spares the remnants of Jews (Khaybar Jews) and Christians after liberating Mekka.
    Lk 14:26
    If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

    Contradiction in Golden Rule: How can Christians love the people whom they have to hate?
    Lk 6:27
    But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,

    On Cowardice in love.
    Jesus is depicted by the Bible as one who teaches a “holy” cowardice in a disguise of “love”, by commanding Christians to flee, so that the evil Roman empire stayed in power. On other hand Prophet Muhammad chooses to sacrifice his good reputation (for 13 years) in order to liberate Moslems from the hateful oppressors. Yet after liberation he spares Jews with taxation and heathens with amnesty.
    Mt 10:23
    But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.

    Contradiction in Golden Rule: How can Christians do good to their persecutors if they flee cowardly from them?
    Lk 6:27
    But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,
    Jn 10:13
    The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.

    On Irresponsible Hireling.
    Jesus is depicted so lowly by the Bible to have just left behind Christians and Jews under a continuous persecution of the Roman heathens. No matter how many prayer in his name is offered to make him come soon, yet Jesus doesn’t grant it.
    Rather, only after 3 years with them, Jesus demands all Christians to die for his glory for 2,000 years in suffering and martyrdom. Worse, he is depicted to get criticised so bitterly by Jews for having let Lazarus died in his sickness – Jesus chooses to delay his coming to him – despite tearful the praying of Lazarus’ sister.

    However, the Bible depicts Jesus of apparently trying to come back to the earth shortly in the time of Paul, but he cancelled it.
    Mt 24:9
    Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake.

    Contradiction in Golden Rule: Jesus is depicted so irresponsible by the Bible to have fled by leaving the sheep to the hungry wolves, and he just waited from afar for 2,000 years.

    Jn 10
    12 But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep. 13 The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.

    Who is the hireling anyway? Moses was with Jews for decades, as also Peter with early Christians, whereas Jesus was with them less than 4 years.
    Jn 21:17
    He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time,

    Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.

  3. Ken Temple says:

    Islam does encourage a political version of Islam in order to enhance Islam worldwide.

    Thanks for that admission; but it is still an understatement. Islam was totally political and military from the Hijera (621-622 AD) onward. Conquering Byzantine Empire and Persia Empire in aggressive war, instituting Dhimmi laws and Jiziye tax on Christians and Jews, killing apostates, no freedom of speech or religion, etc.

  4. Ken Temple says:

    Moslems can ask a Secular commitment of any politician who tries to politicise Islam with religious hostility.

    What do you mean by “tries to politicise Islam” ??
    Islam is ALREADY political and politicized by nature – punishments for apostacy, laws against freedom of opinion and speech and Dhimmism and Jiziyeh tax, etc.

    Moslems can use the political invitation of Islamophobia to excuse the creation of Islamic political party in America and Europe as well.

    What is “Islamophobia” ?
    There is an understandable natural fear against Muslim terrorists like Al Qaeda, ISIS, Boko Haram, etc. And suspicion of stealth Jihad groups like CAIR in the USA.

    Islam when it gets majority seeks to impose it’s external rules on others. There is natural fear of that. Look at all the conflict in Nigeria. Terrible.

    But true Christians are not afraid of Muslims as people, and want to live in mutual respect and opportunity to explain the gospel and truth of the Bible in an open fair way, which doctrinal and consistent Islam does not allow evangelism, debate, or conversions. (Saudi Arabia, Iran, Afghanistan do not allow evangelism or debate or conversions.)

  5. Ken Temple says:

    It would be a great boon for Shari’ah Law if the invitation is rather started with a challenge of Western politicians themselves who call to end their Secularism once for all.

    Depends on definition and degree of secularism you are talking about.
    Freedom of religion for all and freedom of speech is not a total or absolute secularism, especially in the way Founding Fathers of USA envisioned it – always with a Judeo-Christian moral and ethic code and freedom to promote the Christian religion without forcing anyone. problem with Islam is that it forces and fights and kills all who disagree. Surah 9:29

  6. Ken Temple says:

    If the “Son of God” means the “Beloved friends”, not God’s seed, Qur’an is available for it:

    Depends on what you mean by “God’s seed”. If you think it is physical or sperm, of course that is wrong and blasphemous.

    but if it means spiritually, the Son, means “having the same nature/substance/essence”, then it is correct.

  7. Ken Temple says:

    One of reasons why Moslems do not take Jesus whom the Bible depicted as “Uswah Hasana” is because unbelievably he requires Christians to “hate” everyone on his behalf, whereas Qur’an just requires Moslems to not befriend the discriminator who just selectively befriends Jews and Christians but excludes others.

    “Uswah Hasana” = ??

    the verse about hating – Luke 14:26 does not mean literally hate. It means in compared to loving Jesus first, it may seem like hate to an unbeliever.

    But otherwise, we love our wives and are commanded to. (Ephesians 5:25-31) Jesus means we must put Him first and love Him above all others. we love and honor our parents also. But if parents get upset with our conversion and disown us, our love for Jesus must come first.

  8. θ says:

    “Ken Temple says: Jesus means we must put Him first and love Him above all others. we love and honor our parents also. But if parents get upset with our conversion and disown us, our love for Jesus must come first.”

    Jesus gives a quick example of hatred, such as hating the parents, by dismissing the important and the most intense burial procession of a man’s father, which occurs only “once of a life time”, as a farewell gesture of loving. But Jesus responds by shockingly giving a very irritating response: Let the dead (brothers, sisters, kids, kin, wife, mother) bury their dead (someone’s father).
    Mt 8
    21 And another of his disciples said unto him, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father. But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

    Compare with our Prophet Muhammad who stands up to respect the unknown Jews who walk to bury a dead Jew.
    Bukhari 1250, Sahih Muslim 961
    Qais ibn Sa’d reported: A funeral passed by the Messenger of Allah, and he stood up. It was said to him, It is a Jew. The Prophet said, Was he not a soul?

    “Ken Temple says: If the “Son of God” means the “Beloved friends”, not God’s seed, Qur’an is available for it: Depends on what you mean by “God’s seed”. If you think it is physical or sperm, of course that is wrong and blasphemous.but if it means spiritually, the Son, means “having the same nature/substance/essence”, then it is correct.”

    We Moslems do not woship divine attributes. We don’t believe that divine attributes of Allah have their own persons. Allah’s attribute of divine presence fills everything from the Heaven to the abyss. Allah’s divine Name the Life “Al Hayy” is the source of all living beings, but we don’t worship our own life.

    Allah’s Names and attributes must be divine, in same essence each other, such as the Love “Al Wadud”, and it is from Allah’s Speech comes everything as well as frames it. But we don’t worship everything which Allah’s Speech frames in.
    One of the most important divine attributes of Allah is the Destination or the Center of orbit (Allah al-Masir, Q.3, v.28). Without the invisible force of the center of orbit, like Qibla and the earth gravitation, everything shall be formless, void, scattered away from path, going stray all over like a chaos, there is no beauty or orderliness.

  9. θ says:

    “Ken Temple says: Islam does encourage a political version of Islam in order to enhance Islam worldwide. Thanks for that admission; but it is still an understatement. Islam was totally political and military from the Hijera (621-622 AD) onward. Conquering Byzantine Empire and Persia Empire in aggressive war, instituting Dhimmi laws and Jiziye tax on Christians and Jews, killing apostates, no freedom of speech or religion, etc.”

    But our early Moslems did it justly and selectively. War with Northern empire is military response of Bysantium’s interference that prelude the Mu’tah skirmish. But, early Moslems don’t even try to conquer Ethiopian Christian kingdom that stands right over the western seashore of Mekkah.

    Moreover, the nature of Mekka’s Irredentism is different from the external conquest to the North and East direction.
    Mekkah’s conquest is internal. Moslems return to where we belong.
    A long term campaign of Empire’s destruction is external matter. Even all universe needs to be islamicised.

    “Ken Temple says: What is “Islamophobia” ? There is an understandable natural fear against Muslim terrorists like Al Qaeda, ISIS, Boko Haram, etc. And suspicion of stealth Jihad groups like CAIR in the USA.”

    Al Qaeda is about a personal vendetta of one Saudi rich man who got angered by the presence of American armies on his city of Khobar without his asking permission. But that same man didn’t mind if the same Americans stepped on Afghanistan’s soil without any permission on purpose to help the Mujaheddins with the Stinger. Even his mates, the Afghan Mujaheddins, don’t take heed of his call to wage a war world-widely based on his personal vendetta, except certain paid-youths of Arabs.

    Mostly the group of militias are containable, local, and on the run. At most we just considered them as counter-intelligent units if they operated in the West. Certainly it is well-known that CIA, MI6, Mossad, KGB have their covet agents throughout Arab world, especial in the oil industry and military.

    “Ken Temple says: If the “Son of God” means the “Beloved friends”, not God’s seed, Qur’an is available for it: Depends on what you mean by “God’s seed”. If you think it is physical or sperm, of course that is wrong and blasphemous.but if it means spiritually, the Son, means “having the same nature/substance/essence”, then it is correct.”

    We Moslems do not woship divine attributes. We don’t believe that divine attributes of Allah have their own persons. Allah’s attribute of divine presence fills everything from the Heaven to the abyss. Allah’s divine Name the Life “Al Hayy” is the source of all living beings, but we don’t worship our own life.

    Allah’s Names and attributes must be divine, in same essence each other, such as the Love “Al Wadud”, and it is from Allah’s Speech comes everything as well as frames it. But we don’t worship everything which Allah’s Speech frames in.
    One of the most important divine attributes of Allah is the Destination or the Center of orbit (Allah al-Masir, Q.3, v.28). Without the invisible force of the center of orbit, like Qibla and the earth gravitation, everything shall be formless, void, scattered away from path, going stray all over like a chaos, there is no beauty or orderliness.
    In prayers, we are reminded of the beauty of the source of our gravitational life, as well as the heavenly offer that nobody takes it except Moslems. In the prayers Moslems pronounced Allah’s Name to all. It is quite similar to what David and Jesus said.
    Ps 22:22
    I will declare thy name unto my brethren: in the midst of the congregation will I praise thee.
    Jn 17:26
    And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.

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