The Doctrine of the Trinity in the New Testament

What the New Testament teaches about the Trinity:

http://garrettkell.com/where-is-the-trinity-in-the-bible/

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About Ken Temple

I am a follower of Jesus Christ. I am a sinner who has been saved by the grace of God alone (Ephesians 2:8-9), through faith alone (Galatians 2:16; Romans 3:28; 4:1-16), in Christ alone (John 14:6). But a true faith does not stay alone, it should result in change, fruit, good works, and deeper levels of repentance and hatred of my own sins of selfishness and pride. I am not better than you! I still make mistakes and sin, but the Lord is working on me, conforming me to His character. (Romans 8:28-29; 2 Corinthians 3:16-18) When I do sin, I hate the sin as it is an affront to God, and seek His forgiveness in repentance. (Mark 1:15; 2 Corinthians 7:7-10; Colossians 3:5-16 ) Praise God for His love for sinners (Romans 5:8), shown by the voluntary coming of Christ and His freely laying down His life for us (John 10:18), becoming flesh/human (John 1:1-5; 1:14; Philippians 2:5-8), dying for sins of people from all nations, tribes, and cultures (Revelation 5:9), on the cross, in history, rising from the dead (Romans 10:9-10; Matthew 28, Mark 16:1-8; Luke 24; John 20-21; 1 Corinthians chapter 15). His resurrection from the dead proved that Jesus is the Messiah, the eternal Son of God, the word of God from eternity past; and that He was all the gospels say He was and that He is truth and the life and the way to salvation. (John 14:6)
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40 Responses to The Doctrine of the Trinity in the New Testament

  1. θ says:

    How can the Spirit give birth to the flesh, that is human?
    Jn 3
    6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

    Allah is not the Father of anyone. Allah just depicts all creations as His subordinates, including Jesus whom He takes up to Him.
    Q.19, v.93. There is no one in the heavens and earth but that he comes to the Most Merciful as a servant.

    1Cor 15
    28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

    John 4 :24 in the Greek manuscript actually proves that Spirit is the God. “Pneuma Ho Theos”
    Jn 4
    24 God is a Spirit (precisely: Spirit is the God, Pneuma Ho Theos) and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

    Concerning the divinisation, it is a figurative designation for a limited group of Prophets not for everyone, not even for Jesus (who separated himself from and lowered his status than the past’s Scriptural divinisation).
    Jn 10
    34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
    Read carefully the word *Them* Jesus used over there, not *Us* nor *Me* (hence Jesus is not one of the gods).
    Jn 10
    35 If he called *them* gods,

    And read the word “He” Jesus used there, not *I* nor *We* (hence Jesus is not Jehovah).
    Jn 10
    35 If *he* called them gods,

  2. Ninja says:

    Go, O my sons, and ascertain concerning Joseph and his brother, and despair not of the Spirit of Allah. Lo! none despaireth of the Spirit of Allah save disbelieving folk (S12:87)

    In strange way muslim interpreters prefer to translate the ‘ Spirit’ as Mercy in their effort to deny Allah has A Spirit but again Allah is called Ar-Raheem, such a coincidence !

    The verse obviously can be translated Go, O my sons, and ascertain concerning Joseph and his brother, and despair not of the The Spirit who possesses the attribute of Allah Ar-Raheem . Lo! none despaireth of the Spirit who possesses the attribute of Allah Ar-Raheemsave disbelieving folk (S12:87)

  3. Ninja says:

    Ar-Raheem is one of sacred 99 names of Allah means THE MERCIFUL ONE

  4. θ says:

    “Ninja says: In strange way muslim interpreters prefer to translate the ‘ Spirit’ as Mercy in their effort to deny Allah has A Spirit ”

    Q.58, v.22 mentions that every Moslem is regenerated by the quickening Spirit after getting justified in Faith.

  5. Ninja says:

    Quran in its chaotic mixed up of ideas in fact combine the concept of Holy Spirit as Comforter in NT of Christian and Holy Spirit as Shekinah in OT of the Jews.

    He it is Who sent down the Sakinah into the hearts of the believers that they might add faith unto their faith” (48:4)

    However because Quran chaotic nature, it mistakenly translates Jewish Shekinah (Indwelling/Presence of God) as peace/tranquilty/ COMFORT to make it suitable with The COMFORTER in John’s Gospel while at he same time also trying to stripped the personhood of the COMFORTER into just a thing/noun

  6. θ says:

    “Ninja says: He it is Who sent down the Sakinah into the hearts of the believers that they might add faith unto their faith” (48:4)”

    Sakinah is additional Faith (Double Faith, faith upon faith), but a quickening Spirit doesn’t yet add a new Faith.

  7. Ninja says:

    θ says:Q.58, v.22 mentions that every Moslem is regenerated by the quickening Spirit after getting justified in Faith.

    Absolutely give no answer to this fact

    Go, O my sons, and ascertain concerning Joseph and his brother, and despair not of the Spirit who possesses the attribute of Allah Ar-Raheem . Lo! none despaireth of the Spirit who possesses the attribute of Allah Ar-Raheem save disbelieving folk (S12:87)

    The Spirit here is Ar-Raheem Himself = DIVINE

  8. θ says:

    “Ninja says:Absolutely give no answer to this fact”

    What fact? Where is the Arabic word “Rahim” there? Qur’an just talks about a quickening spirit who strengthens them when they need it – when they lost again another brother (Benjamin) after losing Joseph – hence somehow a loss can mean an addition.

  9. Ninja says:

    θ says Sakinah is additional Faith

    Nope

    It’s a MISTRANSLATION OF HEBREW WORD INDWELLING / PRESENCE OF GOD in OT and gets MIXED UP with The Comforter in John’s Gospel in NT

    Holy Spirit =The Comforter (NT) = Presence of God(OT) =mistranslated by Muhammad = Comfort/Peaceful Condition

  10. Ninja says:

    However througt this observation factually Islam unconsciously agree that Holy Spirit is the Comforter (Sakina)

  11. θ says:

    “Ninja says: It’s a MISTRANSLATION OF HEBREW WORD INDWELLING / PRESENCE OF GOD in OT”

    How ignorant your Holy Ghost is, for having wrongly indwelt the body of the future apostates?
    Can’t he predict their future?
    Heb 6
    4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 6 If they shall fall away.

    In islam, “Sekinah” is additional Faith (Double Faith), hence it causes the Faith to be irreversible.

  12. θ says:

    “Ninja says: However througt this observation factually Islam unconsciously agree that Holy Spirit is the Comforter (Sakina)”

    Apparently your Comforter inherited the ignorance of a man Jesus.
    Can’t it predict the future of apostates?
    Heb 6
    4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 6 If they shall fall away.

  13. Ninja says:

    θ says: the Arabic word “Rahim

    Muslim in majority translates it as MERCY = RAHEEM , when obviously the Mercy is SPIRIT OF ALLAH

    ALLAH is AR-RAHEEM and SPIRIT OF ALLAH = SPIRIT OF AR-RAHEEM or

    The Spirit who has the attribute of Ar-RAHEEM

  14. θ says:

    “Ninja says: Muslim in majority translates”

    Arabs should have laughed at them.

  15. Ninja says:

    +=Arabs should have laughed at them++

    you should laugh most of muslim translators then…

  16. Ninja says:

    ++Can’t it predict the future ++

    Of course He knows the future , the predestination is also sophisticated matter in Islam :

    –What’s the purpose of Allah having someone ‘enlightened’ while in the end this person end ups in hell ?

  17. θ says:

    “Ninja says: you should laugh most of muslim translators then…”

    It is just a fun to imagine how come translators can be so flawed by mis-translating the Spirit to the mercy. After all the context is a loss of two brothers. What they need is a strengthening spirit, not a mercy for salvation.

  18. Ninja says:

    θ says:It is just a fun to imagine how come (MUSLIMS)translators can be so flawed
    yeaa it’s so fun to see muslim mocking each other accusing each other for being stupid 😀

  19. θ says:

    “Ninja says: predestination is also sophisticated matter in Islam :”

    Nobody ever reads the Book of Predestination of any particular person, not even Adam until the Day of Judgment, when mostly the ancient Prophets wrongly accused him of violating – forfeiting precisely – their original fates in Eden.
    Knowing the existence of the Book is one thing (Faith), but reading its contents is another thing (unknown), as no one knows the future.

  20. Ninja says:

    –What’s the purpose of Allah having someone ‘enlightened’ while in the end this person end ups in hell ?

  21. θ says:

    “Ninja says:–What’s the purpose of Allah having someone ‘enlightened’ while in the end this person end ups in hell ?”

    No one knows the future of someone. Are you a fortuneteller?

  22. Ninja says:

    θ says:No one knows the future of someone. Are you a fortuneteller?

    So what’s the beef ?

  23. θ says:

    “Ninja says:So what’s the beef ?”

    It is just to ensure nobody knows the future, not even fortuneteller, not even Adam and those accusing Prophets (who assumed wrongly Adam of having spoiled their supposed good fate in Eden).

  24. Ninja says:

    1 Cor 2 :11 For who knows a person’s thoughts except their own spirit within them? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.

    What’s the purpose WITHIN ALLAH’S THOUGHT for having someone ‘enlightened’ while in the end this person end ups in hell ?

    what’s the beef then ?

  25. θ says:

    “Ninja says: in the end this person end ups in hell ?”

    So you know a future, you are a fortuneteller.
    Your fictional character does not deserve a serious response.

  26. Ninja says:

    Muhammad see ‘The Father’ in purely SEXUAL way,

    S39:4, Had God wanted to have a son, He WOULD HAVE CHOSEN one from His creatures according to His will. God is too Exalted to have a son. He is One and Almighty

    S6:101 [He is] Originator of the heavens and the earth. How could He have a son when He does not have a companion

    This means Allah according to Muhammad IS ABLE TO CHOOSE A SEXUAL PARTNER IN ORDER TO HAVE A SON …If Allah had wanted to

    Because it’s a major different between ‘had wanted&would’ve chosen’ and ‘had wanted but had no capability’ to perform sexual act in order for having a son.

    There’s no relevancy between Muhammad SEXUAL perspective about his Allah and the true God.

  27. θ says:

    It is still impossible if it were taken or chosen from the creatures.Read carefully Q.39, v.4. …one from His creatures.
    A creature can never be equal to Creator.
    The verse is just a rhetorical statement. But its point is it is impossible.

  28. Ninja says:

    ++It is still impossible if it were taken or chosen from the creatures.

    Had God wanted to have a son, He WOULD HAVE CHOSEN one from His creatures S39:4 … through sexual relation by raising a partner S.6101

  29. θ says:

    You can’t a bit be serious to realise that you talk about the Creator of the Universe here. Yours doesn’t need a response.
    It is never in Qur’an to imagine a long process of coitus, conception, and giving birth for Allah to just have a son.

  30. θ says:

    “Ninja says: a companion”

    Arabic Quran is not designed to cure a group of the stubborn unreformed persons who don’t know of Arabic. Sahib (equal) is not Zawj (wife).

  31. Ninja says:

    Had God wanted to have a son, He WOULD HAVE CHOSEN one from His creatures S39:4 … through sexual relation by raising a partner S.6101

  32. Ninja says:

    S39:4, Had God wanted to have a son, He WOULD HAVE CHOSEN one from His creatures according to His will

    and since the only way to have a son is through a partner S6:101…How could He have a son when He does not have a companion

    Allah is able to have /raise a sexual partner but he had chosen not to

    THAT’S WHY ISLAM MISTAKENLY ASSUME MARY AS ONE OF THE TRINITY , THIS IS NONE OTHER BECAUSE MUHAMMAD’S VIEW ON ALLAH IS PURELY SEXUAL

  33. θ says:

    “Ninja says: MARY AS ONE OF THE TRINITY”

    It is impossible in Qur’an because Allah is placed as the “third” of the three (Spirit), not Mary.
    Mary is rather the 4th supplement apart from the Trinity. Catholics worshiped her because she is a joint-recipient of worship when the Son is brought into the world via her womb.

  34. Ninja says:

    The Trinity has already been known at the time of Muhammad but strangely Muhammad saw it SEXUALLY

    THAT’S WHY ISLAM MISTAKENLY ASSUME MARY AS ONE OF THE TRINITY , THIS IS NONE OTHER BECAUSE MUHAMMAD’S VIEW ON ALLAH IS PURELY SEXUAL

    Plus Muhammad DIDN’T DARE TO REFUTE THE DIVINITY OF HOLY SPIRIT BECAUSE SOMEHOW MUHAMMAD BELIEVED HOLY SPIRIT IS AS DIVINE AS ALLAH

  35. θ says:

    “Ninja says: BELIEVED HOLY SPIRIT IS AS DIVINE AS ALLAH”

    Spirit is more similar to Allah:
    (i) He doesn’t have a Father nor a man Son.
    (ii) He doesn’t forgive blasphemy.
    (iii) He punishes Paul with sufferings for preaching a false doctrine.
    (iv) He does not need mediator.
    (v) He is called the God, not simply a god.
    John 4 :24 in the Greek manuscript actually proves that Spirit is the God. “Pneuma Ho Theos”
    Jn 4
    24 God is a Spirit (precisely: Spirit is the God, Pneuma Ho Theos) and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

  36. Ninja says:

    Go, O my sons, and ascertain concerning Joseph and his brother, and despair not of the Spirit who possesses the attribute of Allah Ar-Raheem . Lo! none despaireth of the Spirit who possesses the attribute of Allah Ar-Raheem save disbelieving folk (S12:87)

    The Spirit here is Ar-Raheem Himself = DIVINE

    So you agree with this assertion , right ?

  37. θ says:

    Islam rejects the Trinity, so even though Allah is placed upon the status of Spirit (3rd person), Islam doesn’t believe that.

  38. Ninja says:

    Go, O my sons, and ascertain concerning Joseph and his brother, and despair not of the Spirit who possesses the attribute of Allah Ar-Raheem . Lo! none despaireth of the Spirit who possesses the attribute of Allah Ar-Raheem save disbelieving folk (S12:87)

    The Spirit here is Ar-Raheem Himself = DIVINE
    ——————–
    θ says:Islam doesn’t believe that.

    Islam doesn’t but Muhammad does believe Holy Spirit as somehow a Second Person as divine as Allah

  39. θ says:

    “Ninja says:Spirit here is Ar-Raheem”

    You must be blinded by a dark force or got inflicted by your Comforter, because nobody – except yourself – reads “Rahim” there.

  40. Ninja says:

    FROM READING SURAH 19:64,
    [Gabriel said], “And we [angels] descend not except by the order of your Lord. To Him belongs that before us and that behind us and what is in between. And never is your Lord forgetful S.19:64

    The WE here surely is not Allah Himself so, muslim has to choose.


    THERE ARE TWO OPTIONS
    -QURAN IS NOT THE WORD OF ALLAH

    OR

    In Muhammad Confused mind he thinks Holy Spirit = ANGEL GABRIEL and IS SOMEHOW EQUAL WITH ALLAH

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