David Wood’s argumentation demolished Shabir Ally’s use of western liberal scholarship and skepticism over the apostle Paul, and Luke’s The Acts of the Apostles.
All of the recent 6 debates between David Wood and Shabir Ally (Sept. 28-29 and Oct. 5-6, 2015) were excellent and full of information and argumentation for both sides. And Shabir Ally argues his view in a calm manner, although very wrong.
I hope to have time to comment on all of them, but this one was significant in many ways, but I wanted to just highlight one thing from this debate.
Shabir Ally and Paul Bilal Williams and other Muslims like to use liberal scholars about a supposed rift between Jesus and Paul and/or between Peter and Paul.
David Wood’s quote of James D. G. Dunn, in his book, Jesus, Paul, and the Gospels was very devastating to Shabir Ally’s argumentation and also Paul Bilal Williams, who used James D. G. Dunn a lot at his blogs which he has changed 3 times over the past few years.
The quote comes a little after the 25 minute mark. The book Wood quotes from is from 2011.
“Here it becomes obvious that Paul was able to differentiate within the law . He maintains that some laws, here the law of circumcision no longer counted, but in the same breathe he reasserts the importance of keeping the law of God.
Does this not remind us of Jesus? . . .
Paul drew his attitude to the law from Jesus, no other explanation makes such sense of the evidence available to us. It was Jesus’ teaching and example which showed him that in Christ neither circumcision counts for anything nor uncircumcision but faith operating effectively through love. [Galatians 5:6] It was no doubt this teaching and that example that Paul had in mind when he speaks of “the law of Christ”.
“Should we then speak of a gulf between Jesus and Paul? NO!
Should we deduce that Paul departed from or corrupted the good news which Jesus brought? No!
Should we conclude that Paul transformed Jesus’ message into something that Jesus Himself would not recognize? No! . . . ”
Jesus’ discriminating attitude to the law and the love command . . . ” (David Wood ran out of time at that point)
(James D. G. Dunn, Jesus, Paul, and the Gospels. Eerdmans, 2011, pages 114-115)
The Apostle Paul wrote, around 48-49 AD, right before the Council of Jerusalem in Acts 15:
7 “But on the contrary, seeing that I had been entrusted with the gospel to the uncircumcised, just as Peter had been to the circumcised 8 (for He who effectually worked for Peter in his apostleship to the circumcised effectually worked for me also to the Gentiles), 9 and recognizing the grace that had been given to me, James and Cephas (Peter) and John, who werereputed to be pillars, gave to me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship, so that we might go to the Gentiles and they to the circumcised. 10 They only asked us to remember the poor—the very thing I also was eager to do.”
Galatians 2:7-10 (my emphasis)