Exposing Ahmed Deedat’s argument about the crucifixion of Christ

In this debate, Dr. James White and Ayoob Karim debate the merits of the late Ahmed Deedat’s arguments against the Crucifixion of Jesus Christ.

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About Ken Temple

I am a follower of Jesus Christ. I am a sinner who has been saved by the grace of God alone (Ephesians 2:8-9), through faith alone (Galatians 2:16; Romans 3:28; 4:1-16), in Christ alone (John 14:6). But a true faith does not stay alone, it should result in change, fruit, good works, and deeper levels of repentance and hatred of my own sins of selfishness and pride. I am not better than you! I still make mistakes and sin, but the Lord is working on me, conforming me to His character. (Romans 8:28-29; 2 Corinthians 3:16-18) When I do sin, I hate the sin as it is an affront to God, and seek His forgiveness in repentance. (Mark 1:15; 2 Corinthians 7:7-10; Colossians 3:5-16 ) Praise God for His love for sinners (Romans 5:8), shown by the voluntary coming of Christ and His freely laying down His life for us (John 10:18), becoming flesh/human (John 1:1-5; 1:14; Philippians 2:5-8), dying for sins of people from all nations, tribes, and cultures (Revelation 5:9), on the cross, in history, rising from the dead (Romans 10:9-10; Matthew 28, Mark 16:1-8; Luke 24; John 20-21; 1 Corinthians chapter 15). His resurrection from the dead proved that Jesus is the Messiah, the eternal Son of God, the word of God from eternity past; and that He was all the gospels say He was and that He is truth and the life and the way to salvation. (John 14:6)
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5 Responses to Exposing Ahmed Deedat’s argument about the crucifixion of Christ

  1. θ says:

    Swoon Theory has its merit in silencing, shaming, and humiliating Christians with a typical “fooling” question: why does God fool or lie to Jews by giving them a sign of swooning Jona? Since 1700s when the theory was presented for the first time, none can answer it.

    In Islam, Swooning Theory is used tactically to prove a fooling and lie, hence it is “sin” of Jesus. It explains why Allah has to “Mutahhiru-ka” (cleansing) on Jesus.
    However, Islam has a Decotist belief, as also the Bible. Paul says Satan can assume a body of Angel of light, John says Satan assumes a body of Red Dragon, In Genesis Satan was a subtle serpent, even in Ezekiel he was once a cherub.
    In Hadith and Qur’an Q.2, v.102, there’s nearly forgotten story of Solomon’s a look-alike – that is, a sorcerer who assumed Solomon’s face so that he fornicated with so many foreign wives and worshiped idols in the Temple – until Solomon dethrones him, and exposes to Jews that there are two Solomons. It is a proof that the face’s substitution is known well in Islam.

  2. Ken Temple says:

    Jesus could not have swooned; it is ridiculous; the amount of trauma His body took guaranteed that He died.

    The point of the parallel with Jonah is not swooning; the point is the 3 days and 3 nights” = after 3 days; and the parallel between the tomb and the stomach of the whale. Jonah should have died, but didn’t; and so was a testimony to God’s miracle power. Jonah pointed to the resurrection from the dead; cause he should have died. In the same way the Son of God should have stayed dead, but He didn’t. He was raised from the dead!! Amazing !

  3. θ says:

    “Ken Temple says: Jesus could not have swooned; it is ridiculous; the amount of trauma His body took guaranteed that He died. The point of the parallel with Jonah is not swooning; the point is the 3 days and 3 nights” ”

    The question, Why does Jesus choose to “fool” Jews, or err them by giving a sign of the swooning Jonas when supposing to refer to death?
    Swooning is not dead.

    Now about other erroneous point, Not only there’s absolute discrepancy between a “swooning Jonas” and the “dead Jesus”, also it’s about a shameful day-counting Error.
    Authors of Gospel again fool the people with a typical lie “3 days and 3 nights” in the earth. Since Jesus is buried on Friday evening, 3 days and 3 nights afterward must be on Monday “evening”, not on Sunday morning.

    How can the New Testament be seriously inspired if even it erred on counting the days properly?

    Worse, certain Christian apologists go on further “correcting” Jesus by admitting he may be quite mistaken on using a detailing “3 days and 3 nights” when actually just intending to say “3 days”.

  4. Ken Temple says:

    3 days and 3 nights was a Jewish expression of reckoning time – a part of the day or night counted as the whole period – Jesus was in the tomb part of Friday, all of Saturday, and part of Sunday; it is the same as “on the 3rd day” or “after 3 days”

    You did not seem to listen or watch the debate.

    Jonah should have died, so to survive and then come out and go and preach to the people of Nineveh was a testimony to the resurrection of Messiah to come, who did die and rose again from the dead.

  5. θ says:

    “Ken Temple says: 3 days and 3 nights was a Jewish expression of reckoning time – a part of the day or night counted as the whole period – Jesus was in the tomb part of Friday, all of Saturday, and part of Sunday; it is the same as “on the 3rd day” or “after 3 days””

    That’s worse defense. Ironically, based on Jewish reckoning of time Jesus is buried on Sabbath (Saturday evening), not on Friday anymore.

    “Ken Temple says: Jonah should have died, so to survive and then come out and go and preach to the people of Nineveh was a testimony to the resurrection of Messiah to come, who did die and rose again from the dead.”

    Unseen or limited testimony is a fake testimony.
    For 40 days Jesus has failed utterly to prove his physical resurrection from the death to the same Romans, Jews and High Priests, and other Gentiles, whereas after 3 days the swooning Jonas succeeds to prove his survival to Ninevites.
    Ironically, it is a self-defeating testimony because Jonas is more greater than Jesus.

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