Debate: Islam and Dhimmitude

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I am a follower of Jesus Christ. I am a sinner who has been saved by the grace of God alone (Ephesians 2:8-9), through faith alone (Galatians 2:16; Romans 3:28; 4:1-16), in Christ alone (John 14:6). But a true faith does not stay alone, it should result in change, fruit, good works, and deeper levels of repentance and hatred of my own sins of selfishness and pride. I am not better than you! I still make mistakes and sin, but the Lord is working on me, conforming me to His character. (Romans 8:28-29; 2 Corinthians 3:16-18) When I do sin, I hate the sin as it is an affront to God, and seek His forgiveness in repentance. (Mark 1:15; 2 Corinthians 7:7-10; Colossians 3:5-16 ) Praise God for His love for sinners (Romans 5:8), shown by the voluntary coming of Christ and His freely laying down His life for us (John 10:18), becoming flesh/human (John 1:1-5; 1:14; Philippians 2:5-8), dying for sins of people from all nations, tribes, and cultures (Revelation 5:9), on the cross, in history, rising from the dead (Romans 10:9-10; Matthew 28, Mark 16:1-8; Luke 24; John 20-21; 1 Corinthians chapter 15). His resurrection from the dead proved that Jesus is the Messiah, the eternal Son of God, the word of God from eternity past; and that He was all the gospels say He was and that He is truth and the life and the way to salvation. (John 14:6)
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3 Responses to Debate: Islam and Dhimmitude

  1. θ says:

    It must be emphasised and underlined boldly on the issues of Dhimmitude, that a dhimmi is not a slave, nor a subhuman, nor the second class (lower caste) pariah. A dhimmi is a free taxpayer, as individual citisen without master or owner, nobody considers a dhimmi as his property. Hence the stratum of Dhimmis may be considered loosely as the middle class.

    Dhimmis get penalty whenever they commit a crime of tax-evasion.

    In a good place where the population of dhimmis is too large, even they are law-abiding or loyal (patriotic, tolerant, easy-going), the Constitution of Madinah of Prophet Muhammad becomes obligatory preference.

    In a volatile region where the population of dhimmis choose a wrong step of waging the wars and conflicts against Moslems, the option of conquest of Makkah by Prophet Muhammad becomes justifiably preference.

    • Ken Temple says:

      No; the whole concept and system was totally unjust, because they were lower class and not allowed to do evangelism and they were closed off in their little ghetto areas. Terrible injustice.

      Makkah conquest was against pagans not Dhimmis.

      Dhimmis = Jews, Christians, and later expanded to include the Zoroastrians in Persia, but it was really bad against them for centuries. Most were either killed or converted by force and many fled to India. there are more Zoroastrians (called Parsees) in Mumbai, India, than all of Iran. Islam forced the Iranians to convert to Islam and that is one reason why today the Persians resent the Arabs and Omar and his wars and their Islam is a different strand – Shiite 12er mixed with lots of Sufism and Darwish.

      The Hadith says that “no 2 religions will be allowed in Arabia (Hejaz). Both Mecca and Medina are in the Hejaz. They carried that out under Omar and afterward. Totally an unjust cruelty.

  2. θ says:

    “Ken Temple says: The Hadith says that “no 2 religions will be allowed in Arabia (Hejaz). Both Mecca and Medina are in the Hejaz. They carried that out under Omar and afterward. Totally an unjust cruelty.”

    At worst the Hadith on “only one ummah” is just for Arabia, yet Islam is not for Arabia only.
    The Hadith is just a little wish against a greater wish “Had Allah wished, He would make ye all one nation, but He wills to test ye”.
    At best the Hadith is a self-fulfilling prophesy, that some years after the time of Prophet Muhammad all Arabia shall be Islamic.

    “Ken Temple says: No; the whole concept and system was totally unjust, because they were lower class and not allowed to do evangelism and they were closed off in their little ghetto areas. Terrible injustice.”

    Christians in Moslem society are challenged to blend in, there’s a common ground between Islam and Christianity: One God per Q.3, v.64. Allah of Arabic is the Father or God in the Bible. The words “Insha Allah” appears in Acts 18:21. “Salamu Alaikum” appears in Rom 15:33, “Masha Allah” appears in 2Cor 1:20, Allelujah is Alhamdulillah.
    Christians are free to evangelist themselves but privately.

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