The New Testament claims to be revelation from God

Paul Williams, a convert to Islam, who claims to be a former Christian, which means he is an apostate (see Hebrews 3:12) wrote this:

The evidence is simple: the New Testament does not claim to be Revelation from God. The onus is on Christians to prove that it is.

see the discussion here.

John 17:8
For I have given them the words that You [The Father] gave Me, and they have received them and have come to know in truth that I came from you; and they have believed that you sent me.

John 17:17
“Your Word is Truth”

The Words of the Father were given to Jesus the Son and He gave them to the apostles and sent the Holy Spirit who would lead them into all the truth and bring to their remembrance all that He taught.
John 14:26 and John 16:12-13

Eventually, they wrote down their preaching, all by the end of 1st century.
Mark for Peter; Peter is eyewitness
Luke as traveling companion of the apostle Paul
The Lord brings Paul into that apostolic band of revelation – Acts 9, Acts 15 (Peter, James, and Paul all agree on the essentials of gospel message), Acts 22, 26; I Corinthians 9, I Cor. 15; Galatians 1-2 – visits Peter, John, James and they affirm his gospel message as the same as theirs.
John – eyewitness, disciple
Matthew – eyewitness, disciple

1 Thessalonians 2:13
13 And we also thank God constantly for this, that when you received the word of God, which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the word of men but as what it really is, the word of God, which is at work in you believers.

2 Thessalonians 2:13-15
13 But we ought always to give thanks to God for you, brothers beloved by the Lord, because God chose you as the first fruits to be saved, through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth.
14 To this he called you through our gospel, so that you may obtain the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
15 So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the traditions that you were taught by us, eitherby our spoken word or by our letter.

Galatians 1:8-9
But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.

“so now I say again” = I am saying this through my writing this letter of Galatians.

1 Corinthians 2:10-13

10 these things God has revealed to us through the Spirit. For the Spirit searches everything, even the depths of God.
11 For who knows a person’s thoughts except the spirit of that person, which is in him? So also no one comprehends the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.
12 Now we have received not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might understand the things freely given us by God.
13 And we impart this in words not taught by human wisdom but taught by the Spirit, interpreting spiritual truths to those who are spiritual.

1 Timothy 5:18
For the Scripture says, “You shall not muzzle an ox when it treads out the grain,” [quote from Torah, Deuteronomy 25:4]
and, “The laborer deserves his wages.” [quote from Gospels, Matthew 10:10 and Luke 10:7; also in 1 Corinthians 9:14]

2 Timothy 3:15 – the sacred writings you learned as a child” = OT / Tanakh

2 Timothy 3:16 – “All Scripture is God-breathed” = expands to NT Gospel and books

In principle, includes even books not written yet ( 2 Timothy written in 67 AD, before Paul was executed by Nero)

Also 2 Peter 3:16 claims all of Paul’s letters are Scripture, on the same level as OT (with 2 Peter 1:19-21). So the New Testament does claim to be revelation from God.

It does not matter if you think 2 Peter was written later than 67 AD and not by Peter; it is still part of the New Testament and claims that it is revelation from God.

the book of Revelation also claims this for itself – Revelation 22:18.

Jude 1:17 – remember the words that were spoken to you beforehand by the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ”

The way to remember them was to read them when they wrote them down.

2 Peter 1:12-18 – I am being diligent by writing this letter to you before I die so that you will have something to read and remember the truths you have been taught.

2 Peter 3:1 – this is the second letter I am writing to you by which I am stirring up your sincere minds in order to remember the truths you have been taught

Paul Williams could not argue with those verses, so he then asked,

And what about Acts/Luke do you claim Luke thought he was writing God’s Revelation?

Luke 1:4 – “in order that you may know the certainty of what you have been taught” = I am writing this down, so you will know the certainty of the truth of the gospel revelation that you were taught, which is what all those other verses above was about. Luke confirms Paul’s preaching as God’s revelation; and Acts chapter 1 shows he is writing about “all that Jesus began to do and teach”, means Luke is writing about what Jesus continues to do through His apostles and His Church. The Greek verb tense here is very important and clear that he is continuing to show what the Holy Spirit does through the apostles and the church, the Holy Spirit who was sent by the Father and the Son together – Acts 2:33-36.

  • ” Being therefore exalted at the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, he has poured out this that you yourselves are seeing and hearing.” Acts 2:33

    So, yes, Luke is claiming that same thing in both books as all the other verses I gave you.

    In the first book, O Theophilus, I have dealt with all that Jesus began to do and teach,

    [ the verb indicates Luke is writing about Jesus now continues to do through the Holy Spirit in the apostles in the ministry of the church ]

    2 until the day when he was taken up, after he had given commands through the Holy Spirit to the apostles whom he had chosen.
    3 He presented himself alive to them after his suffering by many proofs, appearing to them during forty days and speaking about the kingdom of God.

    4 And while staying with them he ordered them not to depart from Jerusalem, but to wait for the promise of the Father, which, he said, “you heard from me;
    5 for John baptized with water, but you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now.”

    Acts 1:1-5

    The silence seems to indicate that they cannot refute the argumentation that the NT writers understood that they were writing revelation from God.

About Ken Temple

I am a follower of Jesus Christ. I am a sinner who has been saved by the grace of God alone (Ephesians 2:8-9), through faith alone (Galatians 2:16; Romans 3:28; 4:1-16), in Christ alone (John 14:6). But a true faith does not stay alone, it should result in change, fruit, good works, and deeper levels of repentance and hatred of my own sins of selfishness and pride. I am not better than you! I still make mistakes and sin, but the Lord is working on me, conforming me to His character. (Romans 8:28-29; 2 Corinthians 3:16-18) When I do sin, I hate the sin as it is an affront to God, and seek His forgiveness in repentance. (Mark 1:15; 2 Corinthians 7:7-10; Colossians 3:5-16 ) Praise God for His love for sinners (Romans 5:8), shown by the voluntary coming of Christ and His freely laying down His life for us (John 10:18), becoming flesh/human (John 1:1-5; 1:14; Philippians 2:5-8), dying for sins of people from all nations, tribes, and cultures (Revelation 5:9), on the cross, in history, rising from the dead (Romans 10:9-10; Matthew 28, Mark 16:1-8; Luke 24; John 20-21; 1 Corinthians chapter 15). His resurrection from the dead proved that Jesus is the Messiah, the eternal Son of God, the word of God from eternity past; and that He was all the gospels say He was and that He is truth and the life and the way to salvation. (John 14:6)
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12 Responses to The New Testament claims to be revelation from God

  1. Sam Shamoun says:

    Here are a few more: 1 Corinthians 7:25, 40; 14:37-48; 2 Corinthians 13:3, 10; 1 Thessalonians 4:2, 7-8; 5:27; 2 Thessalonians 3:14; Colossians 4:16.

    Moreover, read John 14:26 in light of 2:17, 22 (read verses 2:12-22 for context), and also 12:12-16, tying in v. 16 with 7:38-39.

    Finally, the reason why Paul quotes Luke 10:7 as opposed to Matthew 10:10 is because 2 Timothy 4:11 tells us Luke was with him. Therefore, it only makes sense that he would quote Luke’s Gospel seeing that the author was present with him during the composition of these letters.

    • θ says:

      “Sam Shamoun says: Here are a few more: 1 Corinthians 7:25, 40; 14:37-48; 2 Corinthians 13:3, 10; 1 Thessalonians 4:2, 7-8; 5:27; 2 Thessalonians 3:14; Colossians 4:16.”

      But how about the rest of Paul’s writings? Ephesians, Philippians, Titus, Philemon, 1,2 Timothy.

      • Ken Temple says:

        2 Timothy 3:15 = OT
        2 Timothy 3:16 – expands it to “all Scripture” – so it includes all of Paul’s letters, as 2 Timothy was the last one he wrote, around 67 AD, before Nero executed him.
        It includes all other NT writings in principle, even those written after 67 AD, like Hebrews, Revelation, 1, 2, 3 John, Jude.

        Most other NT books were written before 67 AD – Synoptics, James, and all of Paul’s letters, 1 Peter, etc. 2 Peter was around same time, 67 AD, before Nero executed Peter.

        Colossians 4:16 is probably about the letter to the Ephesians, which was a general circular letter to all churches, as scholars note that “to the Ephesians” in 1:1 -has indications that it was left out in order to go to other churches in other manuscripts.

    • Ken Temple says:

      Thanks Sam;
      All good points, especially

      I Cor. 14:37-48

      1 Thessalonians 4:2, 7-8; 5:27; 2 Thessalonians 3:14; Colossians 4:16.

      Moreover, read John 14:26 in light of 2:17, 22 (read verses 2:12-22 for context), and also 12:12-16, tying in v. 16 with 7:38-39.

    • Sam Shamoun says:

      Ken, if you read John 14:26 Jesus says that the Holy Spirit would remind the disciples or bring to the their remembrance everything he taught them. This is precisely what John says took place in passages such as 2:17, 22 and 12:16 after Jesus had been glorified, since that was the time the Holy Spirit came to them according to 7:38-39. This is a clear cut affirmation from John that the things he wrote down were the very things that the Holy Spirit reminded him.

  2. θ says:

    “Ken Temple says: Also 2 Peter 3:16 claims all of Paul’s letters are Scripture, on the same level as OT (with 2 Peter 1:19-21). So the New Testament does claim to be revelation from God.”

    Too wrong. it is a circular irony. Peter himself does not say his writings (1 Peter and 2 Peter) are revelations of God, hence how could his words be competent to judge all writings of Paul as the Scriptures or revelations of God? Circular.

    Apart from Pauline writings, seven other books (Hebrews, Jude, James, 1,2 Peter, 1,2,3 John) just acted as men’s opinion and commentaries, not the revelation of God. They are not better than Hadith in Islam or the Talmud in Judaism.

    Moreover, several apocryphal books of the Catholics also claimed similar heavenly authorship, but why do the Reformed Christians and the evangelicals reject them? Inconsistency.
    4Ezra.1
    4 And the word of the Lord came unto me, saying, 12 Speak thou therefore unto them, saying, Thus saith the Lord,
    Tob.12
    15 I am Raphael, one of the seven holy angels, which present the prayers of the saints, and which go in and out before the glory of the Holy One. 20 Now therefore give God thanks: for I go up to him that sent me; but write all things which are done in a book. 21 And when they arose, they saw him no more. 22 Then they confessed the great and wonderful works of God, and how the angel of the Lord had appeared unto them.
    Sir.50
    27 Jesus the son of Sirach of Jerusalem hath written in this book the instruction of understanding and knowledge, who out of his heart poured forth wisdom. 28 Blessed is he that shall be exercised in these things; and he that layeth them up in his heart shall become wise. 29 For if he do them, he shall be strong to all things: for the light of the Lord leadeth him, who giveth wisdom to the godly. Blessed be the name of the Lord for ever. Amen, Amen.

    • Ken Temple says:

      wrong; Peter says “we have the prophetic word made more sure” (2 Peter 1:19) because he was an eyewitness of Christ and His transfiguration (2 Peter 1:16-18) and because he is now writing these truths down so that they will have something fixed to refer to and stir up their minds to remember the truths, after Peter has died. (2 Peter 1:12-21; 3:1; 3:16- affirms all of Paul’s letters)

      12 Therefore I intend always to remind you of these qualities, though you know them and are established in the truth that you have.
      13 I think it right, as long as I am in this body, to stir you up by way of reminder,
      14 since I know that the putting off of my body will be soon, as our Lord Jesus Christ made clear to me.
      15 And I will make every effort so that after my departure you may be able at any time to recall these things.

      2 Peter 1:12-15 – Peter is saying “right now, by writing this letter, I am being diligent and making every effort so that you will have something to refer to, read, meditate on, remember, and go back to, after I have died.”

      2 Peter 3:1 – This is now the second letter that I am writing to you, beloved. In both of them I am stirring up your sincere mind by way of reminder, 2 that you should remember the predictions of the holy prophets and the commandment of the Lord and Savior through your apostles,

      • θ says:

        2 Peter 1:16-19 talk about a past prophetic vision of Christ transfiguration, not the time when Peter wrote the letter.

      • Ken Temple says:

        He begins with that, but expands it to, “We have the prophetic word made more sure” – it is more sure than before, because he wrote it down, not only is he an eyewitness, but he wrote it down – that is his point in the whole paragraph from verse 12-21 – he is being diligent to write it all down so that they will have theses truths in the future.

  3. θ says:

    “Ken Temple says: The silence seems to indicate that they cannot refute the argumentation that the NT writers understood that they were writing revelation from God.”

    Not so fast, the silence also indicates an amasement of the lowness of argumentation given by the Christians.
    The book of 1 Peter and 2 Peter can’t be used to confirm the origin of other writings since Peter himself does not say his writings (1 Peter and 2 Peter) are revelations of God. How could a non-revelation have a say in determining other writings as Scriptures or not?

    The books of Hebrews, Jude, James, 1,2,3 John do not mention the authorship of God whatsoever in its writings. They are just written as men’s opinion and commentaries.

    Then, how about several apocryphal books of the Catholics, such as 4 Ezra 1:4-12, Tobit 12:15-22, and Sirach 50:27-29? They also claimed similar heavenly authorship, but why do the Reformed Christians and the evangelicals reject them?

  4. Ken Temple says:

    Peter clearly things his 2 letters are authoritative, as I proved above.
    2 Peter 1:12-21
    2 Peter 3:1

  5. Ken Temple says:

    Theta Θ
    Your latest comments were unapproved because I already proved you wrong on those issues and you are just repeating yourself; and I don’t have time to spend so much on your every comment. You don’t seem to have time for anything else; and many times I don’t understand what you are saying.

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