Debate: The Qur’an’s view of the Previous Scriptures, Shabir Ally vs. David Wood

The content of this article should also be taken into consideration with the Hadith quote at the end of my summary of David Wood’s arguments.

Apologetics and Agape

Besides the very clear presentation by David Wood that the Qur’an:

  1. Affirms/confirms مصدق the inspiration of the previous Scriptures – Surah 3:84, 2:136; 3:3-4
  2. Affirms/confirms مصدق the preservation of the previous Scriptures – Surah 5:47; 10:94 (between the hands – بین یدیه = what they have at the time of Muhammad)
  3. Affirms/confirms the authority of the previous Scriptures – 5:43 – why do they come to you when they have the Torah?

5:47 – let the people of the Gospel judge by what God has revealed therein –

5:68 – O people of the Scripture, اهل الکتاب you have no standing unless you observe/uphold/ hold fast to / do / obey the Torah and the Gospel, and what has been revealed to you from your Lord.”

“Say, “O People of the Scripture, you are [standing] on nothing until you uphold [the law of] the Torah, the Gospel, and what has…

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Nabeel Qureshi (1983-2017)

Nabeel Qureshi passed away today and entered into the joy and fellowship with Jesus in heaven. His testimony and godly attitude all the while he was going through the cancer was a great testimony.
I am sad; and happy at the same time. So sad to see a man die so young. So sad that he no longer with us. My eyes are starting to water.

So happy about the truth of eternal life and his conversion to Christ and his wonderful attitude.
He modeled Jesus’ prayer, “Not My will, but Yours be done.” Luke 22:42

Pray for his family, wife & child’s comfort and strength, Pray for his parents’ salvation.

“Precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of His godly ones” Psalm 116:15

His book, “Seeking Allah, Finding Jesus” was really good and I remember I recommended this book to my father in law, he read it and said that that book really helped him understand Muslims and Islam.   He was from an Ahmadi Muslim background.

Posted in Suffering and God's Sovereignty, Testimony, Truth

Clips of James White presenting the gospel in debates with Muslims

Posted in Apologetic Dialogue, Apologetics, Gospel Truth, Islam, Muslims, Truth

“The Love of Christ compels us . . . to keep you at arms length . . . “

I have been reaching out to Muslims in evangelism since 1983.  I was taught well in seminary in Greek, Hebrew, theology, hermeneutics, apologetics and evangelism, and I was also taught well in missions and missionary principles and the importance of listening, learning the other person’s heart language, and learning their culture and spending time with the people so as to model the attitude of Jesus in Philippians 2:5-8 and the attitude of the apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians 9:19-23.   After I came to a Reformed understanding of theology and the doctrines of Grace, slowly but steadily, from around 1994 to 2000; (part of that time while an overseas missionary), I also noticed a bad attitude toward missions and evangelism that I could not put my finger on until now. Dr. White, in dealing fairly and truthfully with Muslims, and also growing in his own methods of outreach, friendship, and respecting Muslims and praying for them and learning to eat lunch and meals with them, etc.; has done the Reformed and conservative Christian world a great blessing.

Dr. James R. White refuted Pastor Steve Camp.  What Dr. White has been doing is exposing a very deep and ugly attitude that some conservative Christians have in relation to people who are different than them, or from another religion (like Muslims), or culture. If Camp and Brannon Howse, Sam Shamoun, and others like them represent a large percentage of Bible-believing churches; well, no wonder missionaries have such a hard time raising support and communicating.  Or, as I have experienced, we get a blank stare and “God bless you brother, you go for it; but I don’t want to do that, and don’t ask me to.”.

I especially love Dr. White’s point at 1:01 and following:
Steve Camp and many other conservative Christians’ attitude towards Muslims is:

“The Love of Christ compels us . . . to keep you at arms length and never have any to do with you”

Camp’s methodology is pretty much: “to check off my tick list that I mentioned Jesus, the atonement, resurrection, repentance, and I said it to you and gave you a track and that is all I have to do” – That seems to be the attitude of a lot of people who advocate only street preaching and /or handing out tracks, etc.

This is the attitude that I have noticed a lot from a lot of my fellow Bible believing Christians – the only evangelism many of them seem to think is Biblical is open air preaching, passing out a tract, or a five minute monologue where the Christian gets to say all the main points of the gospel and then walks away, thinking he has communicated the gospel.  (But he really has not communicated the truth of the gospel.)

This whole thing has exposed a great weakness in many conservative Christians’ attitudes towards others (foreigners, Muslims, people of other religions, cultures, etc.) .

Thank you Dr. White for this. Every Bible Believing missionary would love your balance and zeal on this issue. And every Bible believing Christian should agree with what you are saying and if they had that bad attitude before, I pray that this would lead them to repent.

Posted in Apologetic Dialogue, Apologetics, Balance, Christian Attitudes toward others, Evangelism, Islam, Muslims, Truth

Muslims who ignore the context of a Bible book

Recently, Dr. White debated Zakir Hussein on the Crucifixion of Christ.
See the video here at an earlier blog post.

In the com boxes over at Paul Williams’ site, “Blogging Theology”, along with Zakir Hussein’s argument in his debate with Dr. White, these Muslims try to say that Hebrews 5:7 means that God the Father saved Jesus from going to the cross and suffering and dying. This is amazing ! The whole book of Hebrews demolishes any argument that Muslims try to have on this issue!

Zakir Hussein and you guys are trying to tell us that Hebrews 5:7 means that Jesus did not die on the cross?

Obviously you guys don’t know how to read a book and see the verse in context.
Amazing to me !!

Dr. White is right – the way that Jesus was saved was by the resurrection from the dead. He died, and then on the 3rd day rose from the dead in power. it says God the Father is “able” to save Him from death,it does not say that God the Father took Him to Himself or raised Him to heaven before the cross or before death; and remember Jesus said, “But not My will, but Thy will be done” (Luke 22:42) all the other verses below speak of Jesus willingly offering Himself as a offering, a sacrifice, which points to Isaiah 53:10 – “if He would offer Himself as a guilt offering”, etc.

Read these verses through and see that there is no way to interpret Hebrews 5:7 as somehow that Jesus was taken away before the cross and not crucified and did not die.

He suffered, was crucified, died, buried, and rose from the dead.

Now the God of peace, who brought up from the dead the great Shepherd of the sheep through the blood of the eternal covenant, even Jesus our Lord, 
21 equip you in every good thing to do His will, working in us that which is pleasing in His sight, through Jesus Christ, to whom be the glory forever and ever. Amen.

Hebrews 13:20-21

And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power. When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high

Hebrews 1:3

Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins.

Hebrews 9:22

But we see him who for a little while was made lower than the angels, namely Jesus, crowned with glory and honor because of the suffering of death, so that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone.

Hebrews 2:9

For it was fitting that he, for whom and by whom all things exist, in bringing many sons to glory, should make the founder of their salvation perfect through suffering.

Hebrews 2:10

For he who sanctifies and those who are sanctified all have one source . . .
Hebrews 2:11 (see Hebrews 10:10-14 – we are sanctified by the sacrifice / offering/ death of Jesus)

Since therefore the children share in flesh and blood, He himself likewise partook of the same things, that through death he might destroy the one who has the power of death, that is, the devil

Hebrews 2:14

In the days of his flesh, Jesus offered up prayers and supplications, with loud cries and tears, to him who was able to save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverence.
8 Although he was a Son, he learned obedience through what he suffered.
9 And being made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation to all who obey him,

Hebrews 5:7-9

25 Consequently, he is able to save to the uttermost those who draw near to God through him, since he always lives to make intercession for them.
26 For it was indeed fitting that we should have such a high priest, holy, innocent, unstained, separated from sinners, and exalted above the heavens.
27 He has no need, like those high priests, to offer sacrifices daily, first for his own sins and then for those of the people, since he did this once for all when he offered up Himself.

Hebrews 7:25-27

11 But when Christ appeared as a high priest of the good things that have come, then through the greater and more perfect tent (not made with hands, that is, not of this creation)
12 he entered once for all into the holy places, not by means of the blood of goats and calves but by means of his own blood, thus securing an eternal redemption. 
13 For if the blood of goats and bulls, and the sprinkling of defiled persons with the ashes of a heifer, sanctify for the purification of the flesh,
14 how much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without blemish to God, purify our conscience from dead works to serve the living God.

Hebrews 9:11-14

Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins.

Hebrews 9:22

24 For Christ has entered, not into holy places made with hands, which are copies of the true things, but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God on our behalf.
25 Nor was it to offer himself repeatedly, as the high priest enters the holy places every year with blood not his own,
26 for then he would have had to suffer repeatedly since the foundation of the world. But as it is,He has appeared once for all at the end of the ages to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself. 
27 And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment,
28 so Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him.

Hebrews 9:24-28

10 And by that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
11 And every priest stands daily at his service, offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins.
12 But when Christ had offered for all time a single sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God,
13 waiting from that time until his enemies should be made a footstool for his feet.
14 For by a single offering he has perfected for all time those who are being sanctified.

Hebrews 10:10-14

And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power. When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high

Hebrews 1:3

Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins.

Hebrews 9:22

See the “purification by blood” is about His death on the cross.

So, all the Muslims’ arguments of trying to use Hebrews 5:7 for some kind of harmony with the Islamic verse, Qur’an Surah 4:157, fail miserably.

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An excellent overview of Genesis and translation into Farsi


Translation of the above video into Farsi. (by Face to Face Ministries, Mani Mohammadi)

Posted in Bible Study, Genesis, Original sin, Truth

Receive with meekness the Implanted Word – John Piper

Before Dr. Piper begins his sermon, in 2008, he shows a new translation of a New Testament into a language that did not exist in written form, that missionaries that Bethlehem Baptist Church sent out to Cameroon, Africa – they worked on this language and translation since 1973, being sent out in 1971.  What a great example of the Great Commission going forth in this world today, and it’s relationship to the Word of God.

From James 1:21

Therefore, putting aside all filthiness and all that remains of wickedness, in humility receive the word implanted, which is able to save your souls.

see the connection with James 1:18

 In the exercise of His will He brought us forth by the word of truth, so that we would be a kind of first fruits among His creatures.

For the written sermon of this video, go to the link below at Desiring God.

I love this part (not written out, but said with passion – great preaching!) where he talks about our hearts are full of so many other things and how to spoil an appetite for Thanksgiving Dinner – “eat a loaf of white bread for breakfast”, “munch on candy all afternoon” and “drink eggnog” and then sit down for the Thanksgiving feast – you won’t eat.  Jesus said “My Word has no place in you”.  John 8:37.  Wow.  Our hearts and minds being filled with other things – too much TV and internet, etc. worry, etc. can make us full of other things so that the Word of God is not finding a place in us; it is not doing deep down in us.  Great preaching by Dr. Piper:


But this assumes that the word has been implanted. “Receive with meekness the implanted word.” That’s what happened in verse 18. “He brought us forth by the word of truth.” We were dead. We had no place for the word of God in us. We did not desire it or love it. Jesus said of the leaders who were trying to kill him: “You seek to kill me because my word finds no place in you” (John 8:37). The word of truth was not implanted in them.

Be careful how you take this. These leaders knew their Bibles better than anyone. But the word of God “found no place in them.” It was not implanted in them. Before we are born again, our hearts are full of other things that push out the word of God. We are like people who are so stuffed with candy between meals that when the feast is offered we are not hungry. In fact, our stomach turns at the thought of eating. This is how unregenerate people feel about the real meaning of God’s word. They feel no need for it. So it has no place. It’s not implanted in them.

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