“Fighting for gay marriage generally involves lying about what we are going to do with marriage when we get there—because we lie that the institution of marriage is not going to change, and that is a lie.” Masha Geesen Read the rest of it here.
Just got this book a few days ago; have not read it word for word yet, but I am jumping around to get the overall feel and then I will be reading it slowly. It is excellent, from what I can tell. I pray that God will use this for His glory to equip many Christians to “be prepared to give an answer for the hope that is within them”; remembering also to first, “sanctify Christ as Lord in their hearts” (1 Peter 3:15)
I also hope many Muslims will be open to reading this book, and give it a fair and respectful reading. I wish this book was around back in 1983 when I first started reaching out to Muslims by playing soccer (the true football) with them, visiting them in their homes, having them in our home, playing chess and backgammon, drinking hot tea, Arabic and Turkish coffee, eating shish kebabs, cucumber salads, hummus and pita bread, and roasted pumpkins seeds, Iranian Ghormeh Sabzi قرمه سبزی (stew made with five green vegetables, beef, kidney beans, onions, and the famous dried lemon from Oman), over hours of discussion about God, heaven and hell, judgment day, Jesus, the atonement of Christ, salvation, faith, sin, original sin, politics, history, the Bible and the Qur’an, and many other topics.
Most Muslims are fun people to reach out to! Christians need to crucify their fears. (Galatians 2:20; Luke 9:23; Galatians 6:14) They are very hospitable and most Muslims are not afraid to talk about spiritual things. O Fellow believers in Christ! – combine your study and growth in apologetics, theology, Bible and church history and historical theology knowledge with bold outreach of actually getting to know Muslims and spending time with them and listening to them. Witness, preach the gospel, and provide the context of “eating with sinners and tax-collectors”, as Jesus did. (Luke 5:29-32; Mark 2:14-17; Luke 15:1-32)
I always knew the teachings of Kenneth Hagin and Kenneth Copeland were un-Biblical and wrong, from the time I first heard about them around 1979-1983, as a young Christian. One of the problems is that other Christians would not believe me when I would point out the heretical things that they would say and teach.
D. R. McConnell wrote a ground breaking book, A Different Gospel, in 1988, where he showed that Kenneth Hagin plagiarized his teachings verbatim from E. W. Kenyon and ”New Thought” / “mind over matter” movements. Others like Gordon Fee, Charles Farah, Bruce Baron had warned about the problems with the Prosperity Gospel.
Walter Martin, the founder of Christian Research Institute (CRI) and the original “Bible Answer Man”, and author of the standard text book on Cults, The Kingdom of the Cults, warned about the Word-Faith Movement and Positive Confession/Name it, Claim it theology. I remember when Walter Martin had been talking about this problem on his radio shows in 1987-1989, up until his death. Martin first started warning about the dangers of the “Positive Confession” teachings in 1980.
Then Hank Hanegraaff came out with his book Christianity in Crisisin 1993. I was amazed that even then, people would not believe me when I quoted from it and read from it. I do not have his new book, Christianity in Crisis in the 21st Century. I don’t know if it an updated version of the 1993 book, or all new material.
Then Hank put together a 2 part cassette tape series of these Word-Faith teachers in their own words – recordings from their own sermons.
Well, thank God someone has compiled many of these quotes by these heretics on You Tube, since all my cassette players are long gone, either broken by my kids or me, or time and wear and tear years ago, or thrown away after the dominance of CDs and MP3′s and I-Pods.
Listen for yourself to these false teachers spout the most outrageous, heretical, cruel, and goofy things.
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Others have also written on the problems of the Word-Faith Theology:
Lisa Robinson over at the Parchment and Pen Blog has written some good articles on the Word of Faith Movement and her own experience as part of a Word-Faith Church (with word of faith teacher Fred Price). (more on him later)
In the com boxes, someone was complaining that those of us who criticize the Word of Faith theology don’t give positive teachings of what the Bible says about money and wealth and prosperity.
A commenter that goes by “Minimus” made this comment: (at the first article by Lisa Robinson above)
Why have I never seen any kind of “proper teaching” on finances from those who denounce the “prosperity gospel”?
THAT is my real question.
My Answer: (with additions and improvements)
Minimus: Any good Orthodox(meaning correct doctrine, not Greek Orthodox)/Doctrinal/Evangelical pastor and Bible teachers who are NOT word of faith teach the principles of money and finance from the Bible when it comes up.
Basically:
1. We are to earn money by working hard, not by naming or claiming or “believing hard”, etc. (Genesis 1-3 (chapter 2 – “work the garden”; chapter 3 – “by the sweat of your brow”. see also Romans 8:20-23 – creation is still corrupted and there is death, decay, rust, thorns, problems, corruption);
2 Thessalonians 3:10 – “If anyone is unwilling to work; he has no right to eat either.”
2. We are trust God in trials and fianancial hardship – understanding that God never promises financial success.
James 1:2-5
1 Peter 1:6-7
The book of Job
Ecclesiastes 7:14
3. The Book of Job should be taught properly. God deliberately put him through trials to test him and his faith precisely because he was a God-fearing and godly believer, not because of any “fear” in him or because he let the devil attack him, etc. God sent the trials and God allowed Satan to attack his finances – Job chapters 1-2.
Job had the proper attitude at first: ”The Lord gives and the Lord takes away, blessed be the name of the Lord” (Job 1:21)
3. Principle of Contentment – Philippians 4:9-13 – stop lusting after everything that others have. Stop trying to live the American dream by claiming and “faking it till you make it” (Creflo Dollar)
4. Live within your means – make a budget – and follow it; don’t use credit cards, unless you can pay it off every month.
5. Praying for a job or God’ provision is not wrong, but prayer is worship and trust and submission to God’s Soverieignty – “Thy will be done” (Matthew 6:10) – “if we ask according to his will” – 1 John 5:14; see also Luke 22:42
6. Pray with pure motives, not the evil, greedy, selfish motives that these false teachers teach – like Creflo, Copeland, Marilyn Hickey ( “speak to your wallet – you big fat wallet you full of money” etc.) – what garbage!!
7. Give generously to one’s local church first. 2 Corinthians 9:7 – “as each one has purposed in his heart” – free will – but give something.
8. Don’t use Malachi 3:10 in order to manipulate people – that was Israel’s tax system – 3 tithes – 23% – 2 of 10% and one every three years of 10%, which is 23.333 % per year. If someone wants to claim that as NT…
9. Put aside some money for savings and for the future.
Go to http://www.gty.org – John McArthur’s site and put Biblical principles on handling money or finances and you will get lots of good material there.
Dave Ramsey’s book, The Complete Money Make-Over is good also.
So there; those are the basic principles .
That is a sound Biblical rebuke to folks like Leroy Thompson, Creflo Dollar, Kenneth Copeland, John Avanzini, and Marilyn Hickey and others like them.
See the disturbing Greed of the way Leroy Thompson manipulates the crowd here: (and Creflo Dollar comes up and gets in on that action of dancing on the money, thinking that they can actually physically rub off some kind of “anointing” from themselves [I don't think any of these false teachers are anointed at all by the Holy Spirit] onto the money. The goofy-est, saddest, weird, pathetic, and most manipulative thing I have ever seen.
Thanks to Shai Linne for this song. Thanks to Mark Lamprecht (at Here I blog – above) for his article on it.
The apostle Paul named the false teachers in his day. ( see 1 Timothy 1:19-20; 2 Timothy 2:17-18; 4:14)
Praise God that He is raising up young men and women to speak out against the wicked and selfish heresies of the “Word of Faith Movement”, also known as “Name it Claim it” or “prosperity Gospel” or “Health and Wealth Gospel”, which is no gospel at all.
Shai even drops the following names as false teachers.
Joel Osteen
Creflo Dollar
Benny Hinn
TD Jakes
Joyce Meyer
Paula White
Fred Price
Kenneth Copeland
Robert Tilton
Eddie Long
Juanita Bynum
Paul Crouch
Jesse Duplantis is another one; and the late Kenneth Hagin, Sr. and all who follow his teachings. Reza Safa is another one. One of the saddest things is that these American TV preachers are exporting this garbage to Africa, and also into the Middle East. Doctrinal and thinking Muslims are laughing at Christianity because of this. It is a shame and it is causing unbelievers to blaspheme the Lord. Romans 2:24
In his sermon, Pastor Piper introduces his sermon with five lines of Evidence that Jesus rose from the dead. I would have put the “Empty Tomb” as the no. 1 evidence. The resurrection appearances are part of each of the gospels and Acts and other passages such as 1 Corinthians chapter 15. The early church is another evidence and the first three centuries of persecuation and martyrdom and the writings of such men as Ignatius, Justin Martyr, Polycarp, Irenaeus, Tertullian, Cyprian, Origen, Athanasius, and Augustine.
“Five Lines of Evidence That Jesus Rose From the Dead
The testimony of the apostle Paul. We have 13 letters from his pen. He was a contemporary of Jesus. He claimed to see the risen Christ. He spoke of others that he knew who saw him alive after his crucifixion, even 500 at once, many of whom were still alive when Paul was writing (1 Corinthians 15:5). This gives to Paul’s writings what is called “historical control,” which means that there is good reason to take seriously what he says because there were so many people around who could easily falsify his claims if they were not true.
The empty tomb in Jerusalem where Jesus had been buried. This is relevant because the claim that Jesus was raised from the dead spread in a city that was hostile to that claim and would have done anything it could to squelch it if they could. The one thing they could have done was to produce the dead body of Jesus, but they could not (Acts 5:30-33).
The courage of the disciples of Jesus and their willingness to lay down their lives to preach that Jesus was raised from the dead just weeks after they abandoned him out of fear and thought that they had been badly mistaken about his Messiahship (Luke 24:21). What had changed them from fearful to courageous so suddenly? And do men really risk their lives for what they know to be a fraud?
The diverse testimony of Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Peter, James, and the writer to the Hebrews. Here you need to get to know these men as witnesses, and see if they are credible. Give them a hearing and see if they do not win you over, and prove themselves to be more worthy of your confidence than the skeptics of our day.
The ring of truth in the biblical vision of the world. Does not this whole story of God and creation and sin and Christ and salvation help make more sense out of more things in this world from beginning to end than any other vision of reality?
Five lines of evidence. I hope that you will pursue them. Your eternal life hangs on what you conclude from these.”
John Piper, from the sermon: ”When I am raised up, I go before you in Galilee”