Review of Dr. White’s debate with Imam Musri

This is a very good review of the debate / dialogue of Dr. James White and Imam Musri.

http://www.proginosko.com/2015/12/a-model-christian-muslim-discussion/

I had linked to the full debates earlier:

https://apologeticsandagape.wordpress.com/2015/10/15/two-respectful-and-peaceful-discussions-about-the-bible-and-the-quran/

 

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About Ken Temple

I am a follower of Jesus Christ. I am a sinner who has been saved by the grace of God alone (Ephesians 2:8-9), through faith alone (Galatians 2:16; Romans 3:28; 4:1-16), in Christ alone (John 14:6). But a true faith does not stay alone, it should result in change, fruit, good works, and deeper levels of repentance and hatred of my own sins of selfishness and pride. I am not better than you! I still make mistakes and sin, but the Lord is working on me, conforming me to His character. (Romans 8:28-29; 2 Corinthians 3:16-18) When I do sin, I hate the sin as it is an affront to God, and seek His forgiveness in repentance. (Mark 1:15; 2 Corinthians 7:7-10; Colossians 3:5-16 ) Praise God for His love for sinners (Romans 5:8), shown by the voluntary coming of Christ and His freely laying down His life for us (John 10:18), becoming flesh/human (John 1:1-5; 1:14; Philippians 2:5-8), dying for sins of people from all nations, tribes, and cultures (Revelation 5:9), on the cross, in history, rising from the dead (Romans 10:9-10; Matthew 28, Mark 16:1-8; Luke 24; John 20-21; 1 Corinthians chapter 15). His resurrection from the dead proved that Jesus is the Messiah, the eternal Son of God, the word of God from eternity past; and that He was all the gospels say He was and that He is truth and the life and the way to salvation. (John 14:6)
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3 Responses to Review of Dr. White’s debate with Imam Musri

  1. Uthman rahimullah says:

    Imam Musri should’ve been confronted why Sunni Muslims don’t apply Surah 29:47 on The Maliki Sunni ?

    …And none REJECT Our VERSES except the disbelievers (S29:47)

    The Maliki Sunnis REJECT Basmalah as the FIRST VERSE FOR ALL CHAPTERS IN QURAN

    This means They Reject 114 VERSES of Quran !

    BUT No Sunni wants to apply S29:47 on the Malikis, because

    THE SUNNIS ARE ACTUALLY AGREEING TO ABROGATE THE RULING OF QURAN S29:47

    That’s a prove that the ruling of Quran can be ABOLISHED by HUMAN Consensus

  2. θ says:

    Prophet Muhammad and early Caliphs preferred the Maliki’s way in prayers.
    I prayed with the Messenger of Allah, Abu Bakr, ‘Umar, and ‘Uthman, and they opened with “al-Hamdu li Llahi Rabbi l-‘Alamin,”not mentioning “Bismi Llahi r-Rahmani r-Rahim” at the first of the recital or the last of it [and in another version, “I didn’t hear any of them recite ‘Bismi Llahi r-Rahmani r-Rahim’”] (Muslim, 1.299).

    ‘Uthman whom Uthmani Mushaf is named upon – in which Basmala opens the Fatiha, as Q.1, v.1 – just opens the prayer with Hamdalah Q.1, v.2.

    Theirs is a preferable rite, even in the city of Mekka and Medinah it has been a canonical practice since 1,400 years ago. However they also *never rebuked* those who recite Q.1, v.1 in loud voice. Reciting it aloud during prayer is *not preferable* but not either disallowed. Why? Because Q.1, v.1 is used in Qur’an as a goodwill gesture for the foreigners (story of king Solomon with Sheba queen) whereas among the allies and the close friends (as rite of Anas, Abu Bakr, ‘Umar, and ‘Uthman) it is preferable to praise God.

    Other proof that the dialect in daily prayer is not equal with Qur’an and Mushaf is there’s another wording “Amen” after Q.1, v.7.

  3. Uthman rahimullah says:

    The well-known opinion of the Maaliki School is that the Basmalah IS NOT A VERSE OF THE QURAN except in Soorah An-Naml, where it is part of a verse,

    http://www.islamweb.net/emainpage/index.php?page=showfatwa&Option=FatwaId&Id=260482
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    This means They Reject 114 VERSES of Quran !

    …And none REJECT Our VERSES except the disbelievers (S29:47)
    BUT No Sunni wants to apply S29:47 on the Malikis, because

    THE SUNNIS ARE ACTUALLY AGREEING TO ABROGATE THE RULING OF QURAN S29:47

    That’s an UNDENIABLE proof that the ruling of Quran can be ABOLISHED by HUMAN Consensus

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