Response to Paul Williams and Jewish Rabbi Tovia Singer

https://bloggingtheology.com/2021/03/31/blogging-theology-in-conversation-with-rabbi-tovia-singer/comment-page-1/#comment-56541

Paul Williams interviewed the Jewish Rabbi, Tovia Singer.

https://bloggingtheology.com/2021/03/31/blogging-theology-in-conversation-with-rabbi-tovia-singer/

Here is my response: Please listen to the whole discussion and you will see why I made the comments that I did. Of course Rabbi Tovia Singer rejects Jesus as Messiah and Son of God and calls the doctrines of the Trinity and the Deity of Christ high forms of blasphemy and heresy, along with substitutionary atonement. However, there are many things that the Rabbi said that also take down Paul Williams’ years long arguments; and both Paul Williams and Rabbi Singer left out lots of important information that refute their arguments:

Hey Paul,

I finally found some time to listen to this.  Sorry I have not had time to engage here much lately.  I also listened to most of your recent video with Richard Zetter (Steelman Apologetics).  

Rabbi Tovia Singer destroys Liberal and atheistic scholarship:

Getting back to Tovia Singer – what is so good about him is that he destroys your main thing – exalting secular modern higher critical scholarship, “university scholarship”, “Oxford, Yale, Cambridge” – ROTFLOL – Tovia Singer said basically, “religion is not about majority vote or democracy” and “higher critical scholarship is higher anti-Semitism”.  He destroyed the JEPD theory and secular scholarship.

“those are scholars who turned their backs on God”  – Tovia Singer

“gays and homosexuals have their “scholars” who have Phds who play with the text – “would you trust those scholars?”  

Boom !! 

“Jewish Study Bible and JEDP theory” = garbage !!”  (Singer) 

Rabbi Tovia Singer defends the Book of Daniel as written by Daniel around 530 BC

He also clearly believes the book of Daniel was written by Daniel around 530 BC, just as the book asserts.

Also, in his other video about “why do atheists claim the book of Daniel is a forgery?” – he destroyed your assertion that it is a forgery and a made up story – which you emphasized in your discussion with Richard Zetter.  (Thanks for mentioning me – what an honor to be known as a “fundamentalist” ( = one who holds onto the true faith” – the fundamental doctrines of the faith.)

Jewish Rabbi Tovia Singer admits that Daniel 9:26-27 is about the Romans destroying the Jewish temple in Jerusalem in 70 AD

Also, it is very very interesting that Rabbi Tovia Singer admits that Daniel 9:26-27 (“destroy the city and sanctuary” and “a complete destruction”) is about the Romans (Vespasian and Titus) who destroyed the second temple in 70 AD.  That is a massive confession!!  

So, he is admitting the the 70 periods of seven years (Daniel 9:24-27) brings history up to the time of the Romans – the time of Jesus of Nazareth, (even though he rejects that the Messiah who is “cut off” before the destruction of the temple is Jesus) – Tovia Singer makes a great point that the word used twice for “destroy” is not the same concept as “desecrate” for the pig offered on the altar in 167 BC by Antiochus Epiphanes.  (Daniel 11:31 and 12:11).

Singer notes that Ezekiel 14:14, 20 and 28:3 mentions Daniel and his piety / righteousness and wisdom!!

You both have not studied the Greek Textual Apparatus of Luke 22:19-20

about Luke 22:19-20:

“All Greek manuscripts except D [Codex Bezae – 5th century] testify to the presence of Luke 22:19-20 in the account of the Last Supper.” 

Philip Comfort

(Philip Comfort, New Testament Text and Translation Commentary”, p. 232 (see page 231 for the Greek manuscripts that DO have it; and many are older than Codex Bezae.)

see extended discussion and about the order of the Passover meal – the cup first, etc.

p. 75 – @ 200 AD

Codex Siniaticus – 300s

Codex Vaticanus- 300s

Code Alexandrinus – 400s

Codex Ephraemi Rescriptus – 400s

etc.

see for yourself if you dare!  (many of the most important ones, and earlier than Codex Bezae) 

Liberal scholars in western Universities destroy faith and not worth studying under!

Thank you for admitting your NT professor – Lesbian liberal atheist Bridget Upton – that she did the same thing as what Singer was saying about liberal Jewish and atheist scholars.

The epistle of James itself refutes your argument, Paul Williams!

Paul, you need to read the epistle of James again – see James 2:1 – “the faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ”

Tovia Singer about Jonah – he failed to mention Jonah 1:16 where the pagans offered blood sacrifices to Yahweh.

Jonah mentions that if God will save him, he will go to the temple and offer sacrifices – Jonah 2:7-9

Jonah cried out from the depths of Sheol – 2:2 – he died.  he was resurrected – 1:17, 2:10

The point is that there must also be repentance along with the ritual of blood sacrifice – BOTH.

Jonah 1:16

“They (the Canaanite sailors) feared the LORD (Yahweh) greatly and they offered a sacrifice to the LORD (Yahweh) and made vows.”

about wine and alcohol –

Singer:

“wine and alcohol are not intrinsically sinful because in the Qur’an they drink wine in paradise”

Boom !

It can be abused (drunkeness), but it is mentioned about 150 times in the OT and is positive – a joyful happy thing that God created for mankind, even though mankind abuses it most of the time.

moderation is key

Singer mentions the wine of love in the Song of Solomon

Do you believe in the prophet Muhammad?

Rabbi Tovia Singer :
“If I believed that Mohammed was a prophet then I would be a Muslim”

But I am not, so, no, I don’t believe he was a prophet from God.

He tried very hard to be gentle.

About Leviticus 16:15-17 and 19the Day of Atonements Yom Kipperim

the slaughter, blood sacrifice “for the holy place” is also “for the people”, and “because of the impurities of the sons of Israel and because of their transgressions”

“and for all the assembly of Israel”

15 “Then he shall slaughter the goat of the sin offering which is for the people, and bring its blood inside the veil and do with its blood as he did with the blood of the bull, and sprinkle it on the mercy seat and in front of the mercy seat. 16 He shall make atonement for the holy place, because of the impurities of the sons of Israel and because of their transgressions in regard to all their sins; and thus he shall do for the tent of meeting which abides with them in the midst of their impurities. 17 When he goes in to make atonement in the holy place, no one shall be in the tent of meeting until he comes out, that he may make atonement for himself and for his household and for all the assembly of Israel.

Leviticus 16:15-17

With his finger he shall sprinkle some of the blood on it seven times and cleanse it, and from the impurities of the sons of Israel consecrate it.

Leviticus 16:19

The two goats and their atonements are combined in the suffering servant of Isaiah 53, who was slaughtered as a guilt offering and sin offering, and also who carried sins away, bore them away.

Star Trek Trivia !

The background of where Leornard Nimoy (Mr. Spock) of Star Trek got the Vulcan sign for peace and live long and prosper was great – the Jewish blessing from the priest onto the people in Numbers 6:23-26.

very interesting!

My favorite TV show for many years, and still is.

Liberal University scholarly Professors – many are Lesbians, atheists, homosexuals

Thank you for admitting your NT professor – Lesbian liberal atheist Bridget Upton – that she did the same thing as what Singer was saying about liberal Jewish and atheist scholars.

– they destroy faith

The gospel according to Luke and the book of Acts does teach about substitutionary atonement for sin

Along with Luke 22:19-20 and 24:25-27 and 24:44-47 and Acts 3:18 and 17:2-3 and 26:22-23, (all the prophets and Moses testify that the Messiah had to suffer and die for sins, and be raised from the dead)

Another massive verse in Luke-Acts that demonstrates substitutionary blood atonement:

Be on guard for yourselves and for all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood.

Acts 20:28

Also clearly teaches the Deity of Christ – it is saying that Jesus is God. “The church of God = the church of Jesus Christ, which He purchased with His own blood”

Boom !!

Also, Acts 8:31-35 quotes from Isaiah 53:7-8 and Luke tells us, “beginning from this passage of Scripture, he preached Jesus to him” (Acts 8:35)So, stop saying Luke did not believe in substitutionary atonement.Ridiculous!

“to suffer” comes from the Greek, “pasko”, “pathein” παθεινm- where we also get our English word, “passion” (to suffer intensely, desire for someone to be willing to suffer for them)and is used several times in Luke about the sufferings of Christ the Messiah.

Luke 9:22; 17:25; 22:15; 24:26; 24:46so, where does Singer get this crazy idea that Luke is absent of passion?

About Ken Temple

I am a follower of Jesus Christ. I am a sinner who has been saved by the grace of God alone (Ephesians 2:8-9), through faith alone (Galatians 2:16; Romans 3:28; 4:1-16), in Christ alone (John 14:6). But a true faith does not stay alone, it should result in change, fruit, good works, and deeper levels of repentance and hatred of my own sins of selfishness and pride. I am not better than you! I still make mistakes and sin, but the Lord is working on me, conforming me to His character. (Romans 8:28-29; 2 Corinthians 3:16-18) When I do sin, I hate the sin as it is an affront to God, and seek His forgiveness in repentance. (Mark 1:15; 2 Corinthians 7:7-10; Colossians 3:5-16 ) Praise God for His love for sinners (Romans 5:8), shown by the voluntary coming of Christ and His freely laying down His life for us (John 10:18), becoming flesh/human (John 1:1-5; 1:14; Philippians 2:5-8), dying for sins of people from all nations, tribes, and cultures (Revelation 5:9), on the cross, in history, rising from the dead (Romans 10:9-10; Matthew 28, Mark 16:1-8; Luke 24; John 20-21; 1 Corinthians chapter 15). His resurrection from the dead proved that Jesus is the Messiah, the eternal Son of God, the word of God from eternity past; and that He was all the gospels say He was and that He is truth and the life and the way to salvation. (John 14:6)
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